In this episode of Coach Class, I welcome back Stephen Waddington – “Wadds” – one of the UK’s most influential thinkers in public relations. A former agency leader, CIPR president, and prolific blogger, Wadds is now immersed in a PhD at Leeds Business School, exploring the age-old question: how can PR prove its value and earn recognition as a true management function?

Together, we unpack the personal and professional journey behind this research. Wadds reflects on the discipline and sacrifice of pursuing a PhD, the frustration of knowing that many of the answers already exist, and the humility of building incrementally on the work of those who came before. He shares how COVID-19 briefly elevated the role of PR to the management table, and why the profession still struggles with definitions, measurement, professionalism, and recognition compared to fields like law or finance.

The conversation also explores deeper themes of self-doubt, resilience, and legacy. Wadds talks about moving from uncertainty to determination, the importance of gratitude, and the emotional experience of acknowledging mentors such as Dr Jon White. He recalls how writing — and not sending — a letter of thanks helped crystallise his sense of purpose, reminding him that he isn’t alone in facing these questions.

We also discuss what it means to “be taken seriously” as a profession, drawing on quotes from Jon White (“there’s no such thing as bad theory, only theory that hasn’t been challenged”), Logan Roy (“you are not serious people”), and Alan Bennett (“keep on keeping on”). These provocations highlight the gap between theory and practice, and the urgent need for PR to embrace knowledge, standards, and repeatable processes if it is to stand alongside other professions.

Finally, Wadds explains why his current survey matters: it’s a rare opportunity to capture contemporary evidence about the state of PR worldwide. He urges in-house public relations and corporate communications practitioners in any sector, at any level, working in the UK to take part, helping to build the evidence base that will shape the industry’s future.

This is a candid, passionate, and often emotional conversation about what it takes to push a profession forward — step by step, contribution by contribution — and why the baton now being carried by Wadds could make a generational difference to the field of public relations.

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