In this episode of Chalk and Code, Jennifer Huang, Founder and CEO at hihilulu, joins us to explore why so many young learners struggle with Mandarin — and what changes when instruction is redesigned around the true structure of the language.

From character-first literacy to dualism pedagogy, Jennifer shares how hihilulu builds learning experiences that respect how children develop reading, writing, and pronunciation skills. She also reflects on her journey operating an international edtech company across France, China, the U.S., and emerging markets, and what it takes to align pedagogy with technology at scale.

If you care about creating meaningful language learning that reduces cognitive load, supports teachers, and adapts to diverse school environments, this conversation offers practical insight and inspiration for today’s edtech and learning leaders.

Key Moments

01:35 Why traditional Mandarin instruction overwhelms young learners

05:10 How a character-first approach strengthens literacy

09:00 What dualism pedagogy means in practice

12:40 Why tones and characters should be learned separately

18:00 Building hihilulu Academy and training teachers worldwide

20:55 Why teacher readiness determines implementation success

23:40 Challenges of B2B school sales and long adoption cycles

25:45 Expanding an edtech platform across multiple global markets

28:50 Navigating regulatory differences country by country

31:30 Funding the mission through grants, accelerators, and private investors

35:20 Why resilience and passion are essential for edtech founders

38:40 How to connect with Jennifer

Why You’ll Love This Episode

This episode dives into what makes Mandarin learning truly effective — not more complexity, but a clearer entry point.

You’ll hear how Jennifer Huang and hihilulu design a learning model that:
Simplifies literacy through component-based character learning

- Reduces overload by separating tones, characters, and writing

- Supports teachers with training, certification, and blended materials

- Adapts to schools in diverse cultural and regulatory settings

- Helps children build joyful, sustainable Mandarin skills

- Jennifer also offers a transparent look at the realities of building a global language platform driven by research, mission, and long-term commitment.

Connect with Jennifer Huang
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-huang-paris
Email: [email protected]
Website: https://hihilulu.com/

Connect with Us
Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/flexion-inc
Company Website: https://flexion.us/

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