Why This Marketing Agency Thinks Like Scientists, Not Salespeople | Nathaniel White Joyal
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Why This Marketing Agency Thinks Like Scientists, Not Salespeople | Nathaniel White-Joyal ππ@kaizenmarketing8420
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π "Our specialty is in failing the least, but it's still a lot of failure. To run good tests, you have to have failures." In this test-driven conversation, Nathaniel White-Joyal breaks down Scout Digital's scientific approach to marketing that has helped ecommerce brands turn data insights into profitable growth. Drawing from his background in animation and filmmaking, Nathaniel explains why most marketing conversations start with "vanity metrics" instead of revenue impact, how his agency structures experiments across content creation, landing pages, and email marketing, and why businesses need to spend at least $10,000/month to run statistically significant tests within a reasonable timeframe.
π Learn how Scout Digital breaks down product benefits, tests each against one another, then creates micro-tests to understand exactly which visual elements drive purchasing decisions, why they focus on wellness and family CPG brands where they have category expertise, and how their highly analytical data team "tries to take credit for as little as possible" to ensure accurate reporting. Nathaniel also shares why Scout doesn't offer month-to-month contracts ("our programs take 6-18 months to show profitability"), how losing his largest client forced him to narrow his agency's focus rather than trying to be "all things to all people," and his belief that content-based targeting will become increasingly important as privacy changes continue to impact advertising platforms. For ecommerce brands seeking a partner who approaches marketing as a scientific discipline rather than a creative service, this conversation offers both strategic frameworks and practical testing methodologies from someone committed to the principle that "data transparency is really critical, but we're not gonna spin that for somebody."
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