Interview with Jordon Monroe: Healing Narcissism With Honesty And Heart

A Little Help For Our Friends

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To open Season 6 with a bang, we start where most hot takes end: with a self-aware narcissist describing his collapse, the shame behind the mask, and the painstaking choices that made empathy real. Jordan Monroe, a former tech founder turned emotional healing coach, joins us to explore a grounded path out of grandiosity, defensiveness, and reality wars—without dismissing the deep harm survivors endure.
We dig into what actually shifts behavior. Jordan explains why many narcissists don’t lack empathy so much as defend against it, and how guided “heart-opening” experiences help clients feel another person’s pain without spiraling. That visceral “ow” moment rewires daily habits: listening before defending, noticing a partner’s needs without being asked, and choosing small acts of care that build trust.

If you love someone with narcissistic traits, the boundary playbook here is essential. Jordan’s partner models how to stop self-abandoning: pause conversations when defensiveness spikes, withdraw energy from harmful dynamics, and nourish yourself so re-engagement comes from strength. We share practical, incremental boundaries that keep you safe and force clarity, whether the relationship heals or you exit whole. For anyone navigating narcissistic abuse, healing narcissism, or rebuilding intimacy, this is a compassionate, no-nonsense guide anchored in accountability.

Don't miss this episode, as this is our last episode with Jacqueline Trumbull! Stay tuned for the next episode that'll map out the road ahead for "A Little Help For Our Friends"

Resources:

Heal Narcissism: Jordan's program
Jordan's Instagram @the.recovering.narcissist
If you're experiencing narcissistic abuse or affected by someone else's narcissism, join Dr. Kibby's KulaMind community to learn how to heal and set healthy boundaries.

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Chapters

1. Welcome And Community Support (00:00:00)

2. Why Return To Narcissism (00:01:44)

3. Introducing Jordan And His Mission (00:02:05)

4. Collapse, Shame, And Wake-Up (00:03:42)

5. Relationship Patterns And Red Flags (00:08:25)

6. Internet Anger Versus Healing Reality (00:12:00)

7. Receptivity, Spectrum, And Self-Awareness (00:15:20)

8. Origins: Masks, Achievement, And Tech (00:20:30)

9. Anger, ADHD Excuses, And Unseen Partners (00:24:00)

10. Empathy As A Shield And How To Open It (00:26:32)

11. Differentiating Traits From NPD (00:31:10)

12. Two-Phase Healing Framework (00:34:11)

13. Structure, Homework, And Authentic Self (00:36:00)

14. Purpose, Fulfillment, And Real Nourishment (00:40:05)

15. Healing The Empath Partner (00:43:00)

16. Boundaries That Spark Change (00:47:10)

17. Final Advice, Resources, And Closing (00:51:00)

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