In this raw and redemptive conversation, Rev. Molly Baskette, pastor and author, shares her own “shit pile” moment: guiding her church through a painful conflict over affordable housing after a devastating fire—while enduring profound personal loss. This episode is a powerful reminder that transformation often begins in the mess—that healing, humility, and meaning are cultivated not in our triumphs, but in our willingness to be undone.

✨ For Molly’s full story of becoming a psychedelic chaplain, listen to her complete interview on A Life Worth Working.