Best Tom Leung Podcasts (2025)

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From Chaos to Clarity: How AI is Rewriting the Playbook for Product Managers 1:04:20

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From Chaos to Clarity: How AI is Rewriting the Playbook for Product Managers Lessons from my conversation with ex-Google PM Assaf Reifer on building tools that tame the noise, sharpen priorities, and give PMs back their most valuable resource: focus. When I think back on my time at Google, one of the highlights was building and scaling teams with i…

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Brock Holt and Caitlin Fink: How the Jimmy Fund and the Boston Red Sox Hit a Home Run for Fighting Cancer 33:55

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Brock Holt is a World Series winner and former Red Sox player. Caitlin Fink is the VP of the team’s official charity, the Jimmy Fund. They join us to share how the longest-running partnership between a sports team and a charity has improved the lives of cancer patients around the globe. We invite you to share your feedback about this show with us o…

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Episode 70 - Bottles of Wine 38:01

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This week on Two Men on the Run, Jon-Jo reflects on his recent outing at the Mid-Cheshire 5K, how his training has shifted under the guidance of new coach John Downes, and the build-up to his half-marathon next weekend. The lads also dive into the world of road racing – from poor prize offerings like bottles of wine to the reality of prize money, a…

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Ken’s Krew: ‘The Perfect Thing’ for Neurodiverse Young Adults Needing A Job 41:11

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Ken’s Krew creates opportunity and hope for people with neurodevelopmental disabilities by helping them find fulfilling jobs — usually inside of a Home Depot store. In this episode, also you’ll hear from Executive Director Suzy Goldberger, who shares how the organization has helped nearly 1,000 people across its 25-year history. You’ll also hear fr…

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Episode 69: Steve Anders - Heart of a Champion - From St. Helens and back again! 1:46:48

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This week the Two Men on the Run are joined by previous guest John Downes as they interview a St. Helens running legend Steve Anders, who, after international success, hung up his running spikes at the peak of his career. But after suffering a life-threatening heart attack, he has made his return now as a master's athlete. We talk about his journey…

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Derek Sivers: Lessons from Making (and Giving Away) a Fortune 54:11

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Derek Sivers is one of the most interesting thinkers of our time. He’s been a professional touring musician, a circus performer, and a successful entrepreneur who sold his company for millions – and then gave away his proceeds from the sale. Since selling the company, Derek has become a speaker, writer and author of five books including his latest …

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CMO Chemistry: Hiring for Fit, Firepower, and the Future 39:37

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When Jess Gilmartin talks, I listen. If you've been in Silicon Valley long enough, you might have heard of Jess. She's been a full-time CMO, a founder, a startup whisperer, and most recently, one of the sharpest advisors to CEOs I know when it comes to hiring marketing leadership that actually works. In our recent Fireside PM conversation, we went …

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Digital Twins, Real Impact: How Palatial’s Pivot Is Fueling the Robotic Future 57:13

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We’re back with a Startup Spotlight episode on the Fireside PM podcast. It’s not every day you get to speak with someone who’s straddled the worlds of architecture, gaming, AI, and robotics—and managed to turn those disparate threads into a startup tackling one of the most important problems in our robotic future. Steven Ren, the co-founder and CEO…

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Hal Donaldson: The ‘Secret Sauce’ Behind Convoy of Hope, One of the World’s Biggest Charities 41:29

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Hal Donaldson has a goal to feed a million children every day. And his organization, Convoy of Hope, is on pace to make it happen. In this episode, Hal joins us to discuss how he overcame tragedy early in life to found one of the world’s biggest charities. He’ll share what it’s like to come face-to-face with Mother Teresa, and the powerful advice s…

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The AI Lawyer Will See You Now 56:49

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Twenty-five years ago, Tim DeSieno and I were two outsiders on the tropical island of Singapore, me trying to build a startup, him fresh out of a restructuring law practice. We reconnected recently on the Fireside PM podcast, and what followed was one of the most illuminating conversations I've had this year. Tim's career arc is anything but conven…

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From Creators to Corporations: How the Smartest Founders Are Monetizing Attention in 2025 59:14

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“We Are Not in Kansas (or Creatorland) Anymore” When I kicked off this Fireside PM interview with Ben Grubbs, I knew we’d cover the creator economy. What I didn’t expect was how much of it would end up being an MBA seminar for product managers. Ben isn’t just another ex-YouTube guy with creator war stories. He’s seen the evolution of the online vid…

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Always Be Recruiting: The New Rules of Hiring in the AI Era 1:08:35

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If you had asked me five years ago whether product managers would need to worry about AI-generated job applicants or remote interviews with operatives from North Korea, I would've laughed you out of the room. But here we are. I recently sat down with Shannon Anderson, longtime recruiter and talent scout at Madrona Ventures, for an episode of the Fi…

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From Fans to Founders: How Community-Driven Product Development Builds Better Tech (and Teams) 55:25

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Hey Team, In the latest episode of the Fireside PM podcast, I had the pleasure of chatting with Jake McKee—one of the early advocates of modern community strategy in tech. Jake’s résumé is legit: he’s helped companies like Lego, Apple, and Southwest Airlines transform how they engage their most passionate users—not just as customers, but as collabo…

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How Executive Search Really Works: Lessons from Somer Hackley for Product Leaders Navigating Uncertain Times 1:00:20

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I rarely read career books cover to cover. But when I listened to Search in Plain Sight by Somer Hackley, I was hooked. It wasn’t a blog post padded into a book—this was the real deal. Structured, thorough, and full of insights that I wish I had twenty years ago. Naturally, I invited Somer onto the Fireside PM podcast to dig deeper. What followed w…

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Drs. Natasha Bray and Douglas Nolan: Fighting the National Doctor Shortage and Creating New Opportunities for Native Americans at the Nation’s First-Ever Tribally Affiliated Medical School 42:55

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Just 5 years ago, Oklahoma State University and the Cherokee Nation launched a first-of-its-kind medical school. The College of Osteopathic Medicine at the Cherokee Nation is the first and only medical college to be founded on tribal land and linked to a native tribe. The school made history when its first graduating class of doctors received their…

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She Turned Down a $350K Job Offer—And Why You Might Want to as Well 45:52

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Early to mid-career product managers in Silicon Valley often dream of landing the perfect job—high comp, strong team, great product, and a clear path for impact. But what if I told you that sometimes the smartest move is walking away? That was the case for Elizabeth Hague, a seasoned marketing leader with two successful exits under her belt. She re…

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The Vertical AI Advantage: Lessons from Building GenAI Products for Lawyers 38:09

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Earlier on the Fireside PM podcast, I sat down with Carl Wu, a veteran product leader who built and launched an AI-first product from scratch—targeting one of the most conservative and risk-averse professions out there: immigration law. Carl's story isn't just a case study in GenAI product development. It's a case study in how technical intuition, …

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Amy Ard: Motherhood Beyond Bars Helps Incarcerated Moms and Their Innocent Babies 49:17

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Each year, thousands of women give birth while in jail or prison. What happens to them, and their babies? Amy Ard had been working as a doula (a caregiver for labor and delivery) for decades when she saw a prisoner who was in the hospital to give birth. Amy also saw a set of handcuffs hanging from a gurney, which said so much about the start of tha…

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From Application to Acceleration: Lessons from Reviewing 100+ Startup Pitches 18:23

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All right, what's going on, team? We are back on the Fireside PM podcast, and today I want to share some hard-earned insights on applying to tech startup accelerators. I just finished reviewing over 80 applications for UC Berkeley SkyDeck and Stanford GSB's summer entrepreneurship programs, and I have a ton of thoughts on what makes applications st…

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Mastering the PM Interview: The Hidden Hack You're Probably Missing 48:56

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I recently had a fascinating conversation with Rodolfo, a Senior Product Manager at Spotify and a good friend from my days mentoring at Harvard Business School. Rodolfo shared a powerful insight into nailing product management interviews, particularly valuable for anyone early to mid-career in Silicon Valley or looking to break into tech. His exper…

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How the Best Product Managers Use AI (And What Everyone Else Gets Wrong) 57:40

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AI is transforming product management, but not everyone is using it effectively. Too many product managers treat AI as a glorified autocomplete—something that speeds up basic tasks but doesn’t fundamentally change their workflow. But after my conversation with Mustafa Kapatiya, a former Google executive and AI consultant, I walked away convinced th…

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Allie Amoroso and ROSE Women’s Foundation: The Path Out of Poverty 45:27

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Alle Amoroso is the founder of ROSE Women’s Foundation, which helps impoverished women in Kenya learn how to launch and run small businesses. To date, the organization has launched more than 3,500 businesses — and lifted thousands of people out of poverty. Allie shares: The awakening that led her to quit her dream life of venture capital and startu…

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Episode 68: The Digital Era and Special Guest Anton Hutton 37:46

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The Two Men on the Run are back again and they've finally got to the digital era. With Jon-Jo now living in Ireland, he's been talked into opening a Zoom account and getting some podcasts recorded. So the Two Men on the Run should be joining you, hopefully more often going forward, but they've been promising that for two years so who knows. Joining…

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5 Interview Mistakes That Cost You Great Product Leaders—And How to Fix Them 30:48

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Hiring a Great Product Leader Is Harder Than You Think Team, we’re back on the Fireside PM podcast, and today, I want to talk about a topic that keeps coming up: why even experienced executives struggle to hire strong product leaders. If you’re a CEO or CPO at a mid-to-late-stage company and you need to hire a killer Director or VP of Product, this…

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Breaking the Bamboo Ceiling & Empowering AAPI Founders 44:32

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Alright, team—we are back on the Fireside PM podcast, and this time, I had the privilege of speaking with Dave Lu, a veteran in tech and one of the most influential voices in the AAPI founder ecosystem. Dave’s career spans Yahoo, Apple, eBay, startups, and venture capital, and in our conversation, he shared his journey and insights on breaking barr…

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Navigating Change, Breaking Silos, and Building Resilient Product Teams in the Age of AI 39:40

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Hey Fireside PM crew, I had a fantastic conversation in this week’s podcast with PJ, a seasoned Director of Product Management and product transformation consultant. PJ shared valuable insights from his journey, starting as a tech-focused developer, moving into product ownership at American Express, working with clients across industries at BCG, an…

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Tom Bodett, Voice of Motel 6 and Founder of HatchSpace: The Antidote to a Divided World 46:55

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Tom is the spokesperson behind Motel 6’s TV and radio spots and their famous tagline: “We’ll leave the light on for you.” His latest idea, HatchSpace, might be exactly what our world needs right now. After all, Tom is more than a great baritone. He’s lived a fascinating life — and now he’s giving back in an excellent way. In today’s episode, Tom sh…

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Mastering Controllable Inputs in Product Management 55:48

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Hey team, Last week on Fireside PM, I had the pleasure of reconnecting with an old Google colleague, Chris Vander May. We first crossed paths at the Kirkland office nearly 18 years ago, and since then, Chris has had an incredible career spanning Amazon, Google, Meta, and now his own AI-driven startup, Product Partner AI. Chris has seen it all—from …

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The Future of Product Management: Preparing for an AI-Driven Evolution 27:23

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In my latest Fireside PM episode, I explore a compelling question that recently came up in my Backchannel PM Accelerator cohort: What is the future of product management, and how can PMs prepare for it? This discussion is rooted in the rapid technological changes reshaping our profession. Here are my reflections on where we're heading and what it m…

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Unpacking the famous Amazon PRFAQ Framework 48:11

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In this episode of Fireside PM, I had the privilege of interviewing Marcelo Calbucci, a seasoned entrepreneur, tech leader, and author of The PRFAQ Framework: Adapting Amazon’s Innovation Framework to Work for You. Marcelo’s extensive career spans over two decades, including roles at Microsoft, founding multiple startups, and leading teams at Amazo…

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Why Brand and Product Are Two Sides of the Same Coin: Lessons from Karl Isaac 1:08:55

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In this episode of the Fireside PM podcast, I had the privilege of catching up with Karl Isaac, my former manager from Microsoft and a branding expert who has left an indelible mark on some of the world’s most renowned companies. Our conversation was not just a trip down memory lane—it was an exploration of how product managers (PMs) can elevate th…

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Shirley Leung: The Secret to Beating Burnout (From Someone Who’s Been There) 31:07

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Leung is an award-winning business columnist and associate editor of the Boston Globe, as well as host of a Globe Opinion podcast called “Say More.” She’s also a working mom who struggled to keep up with work and home-schooling her kids during the pandemic. Her motivation and abilities suffered until she finally acknowledged the problem and asked f…

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Do You Work for the Boss from Hell, Heaven, or Somewhere In Between? 20:50

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Thriving Under Different Managerial Styles: A PM’s Guide Do You Work for the Boss from Hell, Heaven, or Somewhere In Between? In a recent Fireside PM podcast episode, I shared insights inspired by a coaching conversation with a senior PM at a FAANG company. * She was navigating a significant challenge: adapting to a new manager with a starkly diffe…

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Episode 67: Big Life Changes, Running and the end of 2024! 44:56

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The wait is over! After a few months' hiatus, Jon-Jo and Matt are back with Episode 66 of Two Men on the Run. A lot has changed since the last episode: Jon-Jo has relocated to Ireland, where he's been tearing up the racing scene, representing his home country and trying to defend his Merseyside XC Title. Meanwhile, Matt has been busy on and off the…

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The Art of Giving and Receiving Advice: A PM’s Guide to Building Stronger Connections and Smarter Decisions 10:52

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Introduction When was the last time you asked for advice? Perhaps it was about a tough career decision, a thorny product challenge, or simply seeking perspective on your day-to-day PM grind. As a product manager, you're probably no stranger to giving and receiving advice—it’s practically a job requirement. Yet, how often do we stop to think about h…

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The 8 Archetypes of Product Leaders: What Type Are You? 23:12

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The 8 Archetypes of Product Leaders: What Type Are You? As product leaders, we often ask ourselves: What is my superpower, and where can I have the most impact? In a recent Fireside PM episode, I explored this idea through the lens of eight common archetypes of product managers (PMs). Think of it as a "personality type system" for product leaders, …

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The $55K Giveaway: Supporting Joshua’s Heart, Teens4Teens Help, Heart of Mary House Nashville, Pine Ridge Reconciliation Center and more. 52:25

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Crazy Good Turns listeners like you sent in more than 120 nominations of organizations that are helping others. In this show, we profile four of those organizations who were selected to receive a $10,000 grant. They are: Heart of Mary House, a hospice in the Nashville area that specifically serves patients who have nowhere else to go. Volunteer Reb…

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2025 Predictions: ROI, Decacorns, and a Changing Job Market 4:43

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I just shared my three big predictions for 2025 in my latest video. Here's a quick summary, but I’d love to hear your thoughts—especially if you disagree with any of them! * ROI Will Trump AIBy 2025, companies will focus more on ROI over pure AI hype. While AI could contribute $16 trillion to the economy by 2030 (according to PwC), most companies h…

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Luther Lockwood and the McColl-Lockwood Lab: A Family’s Love Leads to a Medical Breakthrough 22:49

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When Luther’s daughter, Jane Lockwood, was just 5 years old, she was diagnosed with a rare and incurable form of muscular dystrophy. Luther and his family resolved to do something about it. During the two decades since, they founded the McColl-Lockwood Laboratory and dedicated enormous resources to creating more effective treatments for the disease…