Welcome to "The CvCISO Podcast" - an extension of SecurityStudio's vCISO training program. Designed to keep the conversation alive beyond the confines of traditional training, this podcast is your ongoing resource for all things related to Virtual Chief Information Security Officers (vCISOs). This podcast is a space where vCISOs can continue to explore, discuss, and evolve their understanding of the cybersecurity landscape. Join us as we delve into the experiences, perspectives, and challeng ...
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 52: Essential Questions vCISOs Need to Ask
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45:12Summary In this episode of the CvCISO Podcast, the hosts engage in a light-hearted conversation that transitions into deeper discussions about the importance of relationships in business, essential questions to ask when engaging with clients, understanding business motivations, and the significance of trust and credibility in professional interacti…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 51: Salary Expectations for vCISOs
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44:00Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the complexities surrounding the compensation and role of a Virtual Chief Information Security Officer (VCISO). They explore various factors influencing salary, the distinction between VCISO and CISO roles, and the importance of technical knowledge and mentorship in developing effective security leaders. T…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 50: How to Stay Educated as a vCISO
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54:14Summary In this special 50th episode of the CvCISO Podcast, the hosts celebrate their milestone while discussing the importance of continuing education for venture capitalists (VCs). They explore various strategies for staying educated, including maximizing conference experiences, understanding CPE requirements, and aligning learning with career go…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 49: Embellishing Credentials - A Dangerous Game
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43:29Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the controversy surrounding Mark Lanterman, a forensic expert accused of embellishing his credentials. They explore the implications of credibility and integrity in the cybersecurity field, particularly for expert witnesses. The conversation delves into the ethical responsibilities of professionals and the…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 48: Infragard Critical Infrastructure
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53:43Summary In this episode, Meg and Dave discuss the importance of viewing information security not just as an IT issue, but as an organizational and societal concern. They explore how different departments within an organization contribute to security and the need for a holistic approach. The conversation also delves into the societal dependency on t…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 47: Fear of Failure
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41:09Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the concept of failure, exploring its inevitability and the importance of embracing it as a part of growth. They share personal anecdotes and insights from a book titled 'Chasing Failure,' emphasizing that failure can lead to unexpected opportunities and learning experiences. The conversation also touches …
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Summary In this episode of the CvCISO Podcast, host Evan Francen and co-hosts Jordan and Meg welcome Dave Tuckman, the new Executive Director at the Academy. They discuss Dave's background in IT and cybersecurity, his transition to FRSecure, and the importance of awareness training in the industry. The conversation also touches on work-life balance…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 45: Building a Security First Culture
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49:39Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the importance of integrating security into business culture while maintaining a fun and engaging environment. They explore the concept of a 'security first' mentality, emphasizing that security should not overshadow business objectives but rather be a part of them. The conversation highlights the signific…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 44: Essential Tips for vCISOs
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1:03:48Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss essential tips for Virtual Chief Security Officers (VCSOs), emphasizing the importance of understanding the business context before addressing security concerns. They highlight the need for preparation, relationship building, and simplifying complex security concepts to effectively communicate with busines…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 43: DOGE and Information Security
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51:38Summary In this episode, Evan and Jordon dive into the controversial topic of Doge, discussing its implications on government efficiency and information security. They explore the emotional responses surrounding political decisions, the role of trust in government, and the privacy concerns that arise from data access. The conversation emphasizes th…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 42: Breaking Into Cybersecurity - A Guide for Newcomers
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57:54Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the various pathways into the cybersecurity field, addressing the challenges faced by newcomers and those looking to transition into the industry. They share personal stories of their journeys, the importance of having a clear purpose, and the role of education and certifications in building a successful c…
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Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the significance of mentorship in personal and professional development. They explore the nuances of what mentorship means, the difference between wisdom and education, and how informal mentorship can occur within communities. The conversation emphasizes the importance of experience, the role of mentors in…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 40: AI in the Workplace
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56:20Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the significance of mentorship in personal and professional development. They explore the nuances of what mentorship means, the difference between wisdom and education, and how informal mentorship can occur within communities. The conversation emphasizes the importance of experience, the role of mentors in…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 39: vCISO Role in BCI and DRP
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55:52Summary In this episode, the hosts and guests delve into the concept of Zero Trust Architecture, discussing its legitimacy, implementation challenges, and the importance of understanding its principles. They explore how Zero Trust can enhance security while also serving as a business strategy that can potentially reduce costs and increase revenue t…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 38: Zero Trust: Is it Real?
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57:25In this episode, the hosts and guests delve into the concept of Zero Trust Architecture, discussing its legitimacy, implementation challenges, and the importance of understanding its principles. They explore how Zero Trust can enhance security while also serving as a business strategy that can potentially reduce costs and increase revenue through b…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 37: MN Local Chapter 2024 Year in Review
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51:50In this episode of the CvCISO Podcast, the hosts and guests discuss the Minnesota Local Chapter's progress, focusing on community building, mental health check-ins, and the importance of support structures in the information security field. They share insights on how the chapter has fostered a sense of belonging and collaboration among its members,…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 36: A Year in Review
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58:29Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss updates on the CvCISO Academy, reflecting on the past year and looking forward to 2025. They emphasize the importance of community engagement, new leadership roles, and the need for standardization in cybersecurity practices. The conversation also touches on personal growth and the value of continuous lear…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 35: vCISO Habits and Routines
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50:31Summary In this episode of the CvCISO Podcast, hosts Evan, Meg, and Jordon discuss the essential routines and habits for vCISOs, emphasizing the importance of building strong relationships, understanding pricing, and the value of intangibles in cybersecurity. They explore the pathways to entering the cybersecurity field, including education and gai…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 34: Routines and Habits
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52:26Summary In this episode, the speakers explore various themes surrounding self-care, routines, and habits. They discuss the importance of embracing natural beauty, the significance of hydration and morning rituals, and the symbolism behind daily habits like showering. The conversation also delves into the social aspects of habits, particularly focus…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 33: Navigating the Assessment Landscape Pt 3
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56:50Summary In this episode of the CvCISO Podcast, the hosts engage in a light-hearted conversation that transitions into a serious discussion about access control policies, the role of IT in managing access, and the importance of user account reviews. They explore the risks associated with shared accounts and the significance of system and service acc…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 32: Navigating the Assessment Landscape Pt 2
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54:10Summary In this episode of the CvCISO Podcast, the hosts continue their assessment discussion, focusing on the roles of CEO, CFO, and VC. They explore the importance of separation of duties, risk management, and the impact of experience on wisdom. The conversation transitions into the assessment process, covering topics such as screening and backgr…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 31: Navigating the Assessment Landscape Pt 1
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52:16Summary In this episode, the hosts engage in a mock assessment to explore the intricacies of conducting information security assessments. They discuss the importance of understanding risk management, setting expectations, and building rapport with clients. The conversation highlights the human factors involved in assessments, the significance of ad…
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CvCISO Podcast Episode 30: Tips and Tricks for Your First Assessment
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40:25Summary In this episode, the hosts share insights on overcoming intimidation, the value of community support, and practical tips for new assessors to build confidence and improve their skills. The conversation emphasizes the significance of being oneself and learning from experiences, even when they feel uncomfortable. In this engaging conversation…
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Episode 29: Keeping it Real - The Scary Side of vCISO Work
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40:25Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the scary aspects of being a Virtual Chief Information Security Officer (vCISO), including the challenges of limited control and high accountability, navigating client expectations, and the constantly shifting threat landscape. They emphasize the importance of understanding roles and responsibilities, comb…
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Summary In this episode, the hosts engage in a lively discussion about various statements related to cybersecurity, exploring whether they are truths or myths. They delve into the costs associated with cybersecurity, the role of VCISOs, the importance of communication in cybersecurity, and the relevance of the CVCISO course. The conversation emphas…
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Episode 27: Handling Objections as a vCISO
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59:59SUMMARY In this episode of the CvCISO Podcast, hosts Evan, Jordon, and Meg engage in a lively discussion about overcoming objections in vCISO consulting, the importance of framing security in business terms, and leveraging data to support their recommendations. They also touch on personal challenges and the role of emotional intelligence in navigat…
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Episode 26: Is the CVCISO Program Credible?
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1:08:57In this episode, Jordon, Meg, and Evan discuss the credibility of the CvCISO certification with special guest Lyle Melnychuk. They explore the value of the certification, the importance of community support, and the real-world application of the training. The conversation delves into the distinction between credibility and recognition, emphasizing …
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Episode 25: Understanding the Role of vCISO
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1:00:52In this episode of the CvCISO Podcast, hosts Evan, Meg, and Jordon engage in a candid discussion about mental health, the role of a Virtual Chief Information Security Officer (vCISO), and the critical distinction between compliance and risk management in information security. They explore the importance of understanding security risks, the misconce…
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Episode 24: Communication, Trust, and Authenticity
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54:34In this episode, the Evan, Meg, and Jordon engage in a deep conversation about the importance of communication, trust, and authenticity in both personal and professional relationships. They explore how understanding one's audience and being aware of the impact of words can enhance interactions. The discussion emphasizes the need for vulnerability, …
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Episode 23: Radical Acceptance and Mental Health
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37:30In Episode 23 of the CvCISO Podcast, hosts Meg, Evan, and Jordon discuss the concept of radical acceptance and its implications for mental health. They explore how radical acceptance can help individuals cope with their realities, the stigma surrounding mental health, and the importance of self-acceptance. The conversation also touches on the diffe…
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Episode 22: Recent S2 Changes & Clarifying InfoSec Definitions
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1:09:29In this conversation, Evan, Jordon, and Meg discuss the recent changes at Security Studio and attempt to define some common information security terms/buzzwords. This is Jordon's topic this week, and he decided to play a game of sorts. He chooses a common information security term or buzzword, Evan and Meg give their definitions of the term/buzzwor…
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Episode 21: Events, Incidents, Breaches, and Compromises
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55:19Join hosts Evan, Meg, and Jordon in this engaging episode of the CvCISO Podcast as they explore critical topics in information security, including the definitions and distinctions between events, incidents, breaches, and compromises, and how aligning these definitions with clients and stakeholders is vital for clear communication. The discussion mo…
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Episode 20: Taking the Non-Technical Path
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58:20In this episode of the CvCISO Podcast, Evan and Meg sit down with Sonal Chandler, founder of Minerva Consulting, to discuss her journey into cybersecurity as a non-technical professional. Sonal shares how she built credibility through certifications and emphasizes the value of diverse perspectives in the industry. The conversation covers key topics…
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In this episode of the CvCISO Podcast, hosts Meg, Jordon, and Evan explore how likability plays a crucial role in building strong relationships. They discuss essential strategies such as active listening, being fully engaged, and showing authentic interest in others. The episode also highlights the impact of body language, the importance of authent…
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Episode 18: CvCISO Training Program Plans & Updates
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1:01:10In this episode, Jordon, Evan, and Meg cover a range of topics, from personal hobbies like attending concerts, painting, fishing, and watching dog movies, to Evan’s plans for a puppy party while his wife is away. They also dive into important updates within the CvCISO community, discussing the creation of a LinkedIn group, potential quarterly meetu…
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Episode 17: Finding Your Niche in the Cybersecurity Industry
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1:05:31In this episode, our hosts sit down with cybersecurity experts Lyle Melnychuk and Brian Gibbs to discuss their journeys from traditional IT roles to cybersecurity leadership. They delve into the challenges of making this transition, the critical role of trust and client service, and the necessity of a strong cybersecurity foundation. The discussion…
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Episode 16: The Power of Mentorship & Community in Cybersecurity
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46:14In this episode, our hosts and special guests explore the crucial role of mentorship and community in the cybersecurity industry. They address the challenges faced when transitioning from IT to InfoSec, emphasizing the importance of support, transparency, and vulnerability. Discover how local chapters provide a supportive environment for cybersecur…
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Episode 15: The Challenges and Rewards of Being a Virtual CISO
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1:03:44In this episode, Evan Francen and Meg Perron sit down with Greg Schaffer, a seasoned virtual Chief Information Security Officer (vCISO) and the host of the Virtual CISO Podcast. Together, they delve into the critical pillars of trust, credibility, and likability in the cybersecurity industry. Greg shares his inspiring journey from a network enginee…
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Episode 14: Decoding Cybersecurity Leadership: Fractional CISO vs. vCISO
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55:47In this episode, our hosts tackle the world of cybersecurity leadership with special guests Brent Forrest and Lyle Melnychuk. They bring their extensive experience to the table to dissect and differentiate between two crucial roles: the fractional CISO and the vCISO. What exactly distinguishes a fractional CISO from a vCISO? How do these roles impa…
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Episode 13: Get Yourself a Kevin: Mastering the Transition to a Successful vCISO Role
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49:21In this episode, our hosts discuss the transition to a Virtual Chief Security Officer (vCISO) role. They discuss the motivations behind choosing a vCISO career and the key factors to consider when making this shift. Learn about the unique benefits of being a vCISO, such as consulting for multiple clients and having greater control over security dec…
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In this episode, Evan and Jordon explore the tension between convenience and security, and the common resistance to stronger security practices. They dive into the recent Snowflake breach, scrutinizing the company's lack of transparency and accountability. They discuss the critical importance of taking responsibility for data breaches and the profo…
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Episode 11: Leading Through Organizational Change
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57:23In this episode, Evan Francen, Meg Perron, Jordon Darling, and special guest Jim Perron work through the nuances of leading through organizational change. They explore the importance of aligning leadership with the business’s mission and language, forging strong relationships with influential leaders, and the role of personal growth in enhancing le…
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In this episode, Jordon Darling and Evan Francen explore the power of mentorship and the role it plays in personal and professional development. They discuss the qualities of a good mentor, the spectrum of mentorship, and the importance of setting an example for others. The hosts share personal experiences and insights, emphasizing the value of hum…
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Episode 9: Mental Health Awareness for vCISOs
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51:36In this impactful episode, our hosts dive deep into the critical topic of mental health awareness, specifically focusing on its significance for Virtual Chief Security Officers (vCISOs). Join us as we explore the importance of creating safe spaces for open conversations about mental health struggles and the urgent need to dismantle the stigma surro…
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Episode 8: A Pulse on K-12 Cybersecurity
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1:03:38In this episode of the CvCISO Podcast, we dive into the crucial topic of cybersecurity in K-12 education with our special guests, Jonathan Skarin and Chris Rule. Jonathan, from an education agency in Iowa, and Chris, working within a school district in Wyoming, share their insights on the challenges and triumphs of implementing robust cybersecurity…
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In this episode, the hosts discuss the importance of the 'O' in vCISO (virtual Chief Information Security Officer) and how vCISOs can effectively communicate and work with leadership. They emphasize the need for vCISOs to have a seat at the table and be involved in strategic decision-making. The team also explores the challenges of being a virtual …
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In this episode, the hosts discuss the importance of effectively communicating their value as a vCISO (Virtual Chief Information Security Officer) and how it applies to other industries as well. The hosts discuss the need to understand the client's problem and align with their motivations. The hosts share their personal stories and experiences in b…
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Episode 5: Essential Advice for an Aspiring vCISO
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57:56In this episode, the conversation is about essential advice for aspiring vCISOs (Virtual Chief Information Security Officers), focusing on integrity, ethics, and establishing clear boundaries. They emphasize the importance of understanding the information security landscape and developing technical skills, even without being experts. Soft skills li…
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In this podcast episode, the hosts engage in a deep dive into the topic of imposter syndrome as Meg Perron shares her journey of grappling with it after a significant career change. They explore the psychological roots of imposter syndrome, including pervasive feelings of self-doubt and the fear of being exposed as a fraud. Throughout the discussio…
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Episode 3: Aligning InfoSec Objectives with Business Goals
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54:27In this conversation, the hosts discuss the importance of understanding the organization and industry as a CISO. They emphasize that successful CISOs are not just about technology, but also about aligning information security objectives with business goals. They highlight the need for CISOs to have people skills and the ability to communicate effec…
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