Welcome to the Healthy as Tech Talks — a series of conversations that focuses on the greatest challenges plaguing the world of healthcare today and how organizations are using patient-centric solutions, processes, and technologies to overcome those issues and create thriving workplaces and better patient experiences. Hear from healthcare transformation experts at Optimum Healthcare IT — ServiceNow’s healthcare partner of choice — along with industry experts and practitioners revolutionizing ...
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Larry Kaiser Podcasts
To arrive at the edge of the world's knowledge, seek out the most complex and sophisticated minds, put them in a room together, and have them ask each other the questions they are asking themselves.
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Rock That Doesn’t Roll looks at how Christian music shaped the world we're living in now by telling individual stories from the peak era of the contemporary Christian music industry. In the 80s, 90s and early 2000s CCM grew into a billion dollar business that affected millions of evangelical young people. Through interviews with artists, industry players and average fans Dr. Leah Payne and Andrew Gill trace the long-lasting personal, cultural and political impact of sometimes cringe-worthy m ...
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The Discourse Meets Carman (ft. Chris DeVille)
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59:18Chris DeVille wrote the book on the indie rock boom (Such Great Heights: The Complete Cultural History of the Indie Rock Explosion), but before he became a self-confessed "indie snob" he was a willing listener of Christian rock. In this conversation we discuss the influence of Pitchfork on musical tastes and how specific signifiers could have an ou…
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Healthy as Tech Episode 16 - Many Tools; One Portal: The Healthcare Best Practice for Employee Efficiency
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50:25Fragmented portals. Outdated SharePoint sites. Healthcare employees spending more time hunting for answers than doing their jobs. That’s the reality in most healthcare organizations today, and it’s costing time, money, and staff satisfaction. In this episode of Healthy as Tech, Natalie Tollefson and Matthew Allen, discuss how leading healthcare org…
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1985: The Critical Year of CCM (ft. Tim Dillinger)
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55:19In 1985 the Contemporary Christian Music industry reached a cultural height it would never regain. That's the basic case that Tim Dillinger has been making lately in his Substack, God's Music Is My Life. With artists like Amy Grant, Leslie Phillips, Sheila Walsh, Tramaine Hawkins and Rez Band pushing the boundaries of CCM from the inside, and mains…
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K-LOVE's Tradecraft (ft. Katie Thornton)
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1:03:49Katie Thornton loves radio. Her series The Divided Dial has delved into conservative talk radio and shortwave. It won a 2023 Peabody Award. And her piece for Rolling Stone, "Jesus Take The Dial" goes in depth on CCM radio giant K-LOVE's operations. We talk with Thornton about how K-LOVE's parent company has used its non-profit status to build a bro…
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Ozzy Osbourne, Christian Rocker (ft. Jason P Woodbury)
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43:24Ozzy Osbourne died in July. He was memorialized as the "Prince of Darkness" and was a key figure during the Satanic Panic of the 1980s. But our guest Jason P Woodbury points out that Osbourne's genius was in marrying heaven and hell- and if you listen closely, he's not as different from Christian rock as you might assume. Jason P Woodbury is an edi…
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Healthy as Tech Episode 15 - How Children’s Wisconsin Got 1,500 PM Schedules Back on Track With ServiceNow
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42:01When your preventive maintenance (PM) slips, it’s not just compliance at risk; it’s patient lives. For clinical engineering teams, keeping PM schedules up to date is critical. But when your scheduling system can’t handle grace periods, floating schedules, audit-ready reporting, and location-based requirements, things can spiral fast. In this episod…
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Larry Norman and Bob Dylan's Born Again Era Part 2 (ft. Gregory Alan Thornbury)
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36:03Larry Norman thought another world was possible. Christians would make daring, artistic rock music. Mainstream musicians would make earnestly explore their spirituality in popular songs. He started a record label and an artist management company to make this a reality. And though he could see glimpses of this world, it was fully realized. Gregory A…
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Larry Norman, the Guru of Christian Rock Part 1 (ft. Gregory Alan Thornbury)
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52:06Larry Norman is widely recognized as the first Christian rock star. Recording with mainstream studio musicians The Wrecking Crew and later sharing a label with The Velvet Underground, Norman began his career singing explicitly about the values of evangelical Christianity on mainstream releases that didn't exactly light up the charts. But when Chris…
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Yallidarity Explained (ft. Nathan Evans Fox)
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46:34Nathan Evans Fox is a country music artist, but he has a deep background with Christian music. In his viral hit single "Hillbilly Hymn" he brings the biblical concept of jubilee into the rural gas station. Find more of Nathan's music here and look for his podcast "Yallidarity Social Club" soon. --- Register for Theology Beer Camp with our promo cod…
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Derek Webb was part of a remarkable success story with Caedmon's Call in the late '90s. But the more success he witnessed, the less he could keep quiet. Now in his solo career he stands confidently alongside the marginalized, even attending the Dove Awards in a dress. Do you have a Christian rock story to tell? Leave us a message at (629) 777-6336.…
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Healthy as Tech Episode 14 - Paging AI: What Real-Time, Secure Clinical Intelligence Looks Like in Practice
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50:43In this episode of Healthy as Tech, Rob Summitt, VP of Cloud Transformation and AI at Optimum, will sit down with Carrie Delente, Chief Visionary Officer at Celerate, and Seth Fogie, Sr. Information Security Consultant at Optimum, to unpack what it really takes to bring real-time, secure clinical intelligence to life, and how other organizations ca…
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Fire Acquired: Shiny Happy People (ft. Krispin Mayfield)
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53:30In season two of Shiny Happy People, the Amazon Prime Original docu-series turns its focus to Teen Mania Ministries, the organization that made Acquire The Fire stadium events. These events are described in the series as "youth group Coachella." But Christian music was just the tip of the iceberg with Teen Mania. To unpack the series, Andrew is joi…
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Cornerstone, Communes and Chicago Blues (ft. Glenn Kaiser)
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1:19:42Glenn Kaiser has had a huge influence on Christian music as a musician, a festival co-founder and an outspoken thought leader. He was our top guest choice for our live taping in January of 2025 in Chicago. While Glenn Kaiser is a singular figure in the world of Christian music, we are aware that Jesus People USA is a triggering topic for some liste…
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The Deconstructed Memelord Theologian (ft. Mason Mennenga)
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52:17Mason Mennenga is really good at social media. You've probably seen his posts about evangelical culture, Christian music or VeggieTales. But he does a lot more than just that. He hosts two podcasts: A People's Theology and The BlackSheep Podcast. He has a YouTube channel. He writes academic papers on music. And he works in the admissions office of …
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No new episode this week. Be back next Wednesday. Check our Patreon for some bonus content if you're interested. Do you have a Christian rock story to tell? Leave us a message at (629) 777-6336. If Rock That Doesn’t Roll is important to you, support us on Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/rtdr (join via the website, not the iOS app) Or make a one-ti…
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Giving Up Your Band For God (ft. Josh Caterer of Smoking Popes)
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52:38In 1998 it seemed like Josh Caterer had it made. His band, Smoking Popes, had three critically acclaimed albums out. They were signed to Capitol Records. He had married his high school sweetheart. But Josh had also just become a Christian and couldn't reconcile his rock band life with his new evangelical life. So he quit the band. On today's episod…
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In mid-June NPR published a story with the headline "Christian music is experiencing a pop breakthrough." As podcasters covering the Christian music industry, we usually think it reached it's zenith of popularity in the early 2000s, so this article caught our attention. To dig deeper into the topic, we invited the article's author, Emma Madden, on …
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Healthy as Tech Episode 13 - How AWS Is Helping Healthcare Call Centers Cut Patient Wait Times & Overhead
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42:23When patients call with urgent medical needs, the last thing they should experience is elevator music and long hold times. However, with healthcare staff shortages, complex care coordination, and agents navigating multiple systems, even the most committed healthcare teams struggle to keep up. In this Healthy as Tech talk, Eric Schuller, Executive C…
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This week on the show it's legends only: Russ Taff and Steve Taylor. They collaborated on Russ' new album, "Cover Story," but both have long and distinctive careers in the Christian music industry. Russ Taff became lead singer of The Imperials in 1976, started his solo career in 1983, earning two Grammys and many Dove awards. He was one of the indu…
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Accountability for Michael Tait (DC Talk, Newsboys) and Sean Feucht (ft. Kelsey Kramer McGinnis)
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1:16:05Michael Tait, most recently lead singer of The Newsboys and also well known as one third of DC Talk, confessed to accusations of sexual assault and drug abuse on June 10, 2025. This came after deeply reported investigations into his behavior were published first by The Roys Report and then by The Guardian. The day before this news broke, whistleblo…
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Healthy as Tech Episode 12 - Is Azure Virtual Desktop Ready for Healthcare?
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58:05Healthcare IT leaders are facing a critical decision: Is it time to move on from their traditional virtual desktop infrastructure? With rising costs, licensing frustrations, and a growing push for cloud-first strategies, many organizations are eyeing Microsoft’s Azure Virtual Desktop (AVD) as a modern alternative. However, with Azure Virtual Deskto…
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Healthy as Tech Episode 11 - Healthcare’s Race to AI: How To Innovate & Mitigate Risks at the Same Time
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55:46AI is spreading rapidly across healthcare, and without the right guardrails, your organization could be one prompt away from a serious breach. As a healthcare IT leader, are you confident you know where AI is being used across your organization? Do you have the proper safeguards to keep data secure, patients protected, and compliance in check? In t…
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A short update on progress towards season three of Rock That Doesn't Roll. Leah's limited-run podcast, Spirit and Power.By Andrew Gill and Leah Payne
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Healthy as Tech Episode 10 - Why Epic Is Urging Healthcare To Use This Tool To Fight Ransomware
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41:56Why Epic Is Urging Healthcare To Use This Tool To Fight Ransomware In this episode of Healthy as Tech, Curtis Hendrick, Senior Vice President of Cloud & Digital Transformation at Optimum Healthcare IT, sits down with Matt Dinger from AWS to discuss why Epic is urging healthcare organizations to adopt an Isolated Recovery Environment (IRE) to fight …
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Healthy as Tech Episode 9 - Finally, Your Healthcare Data Headaches Solved With ServiceNow
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50:17Healthcare organizations invest thousands of dollars in tools to help them better control their data and gain deeper insights. But what if the most powerful data tool you could leverage was right under your nose? In this episode of Healthy as Tech, Natalie Tollefson, Sr. Director of Customer Success at Optimum Healthcare IT, sits down with Terri Mi…
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Buy tickets for our live show in Chicago on January 5! It's the second annual Rock That Doesn't Roll CCM Christmas Song Awards! Listen to find out what awards Amy Grant, Sarah Masen, Carman, Stryper and David Meece won this year. Do you have a song that deserves an award? Leave us a message at (629) 777-6336. If you want more seasons of Rock That D…
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Healthy as Tech Episode 8 - Baptist Health CIO Shares His AI Secrets
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45:44If you're a healthcare CIO, you're probably feeling the heat to adopt AI — but where do you even begin? In this episode of Healthy as Tech, Natalie Tollefson from Optimum Healthcare IT sits down with Aaron Miri, SVP, Chief Digital & Information Officer at Baptist Health, and Michael Peter, Chief AI Architect at Thinkgen.ai, to discuss how healthcar…
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The Art House (ft. Charlie Peacock and Andi Ashworth)
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30:31Charlie Peacock is a renowned figure in the music industry for his solo albums, production work, songwriting and his record label RE:Think, which launched Switchfoot and Sarah Mason. Outside of the music industry spotlight he and his wife Andi Ashworth were creating a very unique space in Nashville called The Art House. Their experiences with The A…
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Implementing and running an enterprise EMR system like Epic is no easy feat. As EMR leaders, how do you make it easier for clinicians to get IT support, efficiently manage enhancement requests, and test and deploy Epic updates with high accuracy and audit-proof documentation? In this episode of Healthy as Tech, Natalie Tollefson and Louie Gomez fro…
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Youth Group Demon Hunting (ft. Jordan Morris)
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49:30Jordan Morris is a long time podcaster, comedy writer and creator and co-writer of the two-time Eisner-nominated graphic novel Bubble (based on the hit podcast). His new graphic novel, co-written with artist Bowen McCurdy is Youth Group. It draws on Jordan's real life experiences in a Orange County California youth groups in the 1990s, but adds lit…
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