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Living In Post-Christian America

Brant Hansen & Lance Ford

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Authors Brant Hansen and Lance Ford talk about living as Christians in a post-Christian American culture: How we can love people, how the church needs to change, and why this all might be (get this!) more FUN. Brant's books include Unoffendable, Blessed are the Misfits and The Truth about Us, while Lance's include The Starfish and the Spirit, Unleader, and Next Door as It Is in Heaven.
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The Starfish and the Church

Starfish Initiatives

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The Starfish and the Church podcast is a mix of interviews and storytelling where hosts Rob Wegner and Lance Ford explore a paradigm shift away from modern, hierarchical structures of leadership to a radical Jesus-centered, starfish approach. Like the podcast, check out more at thestarfishandthespirit.com
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Ordinary Discipleship Podcast

Jessie Cruickshank | Whoology

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The Ordinary Discipleship podcast with Jesse Cruickshank and the Whoology team is a journey through the fascinating intersection of neuroscience and narrative to ignite the disciplemaker in you. Delve into the transformative power of storytelling, exploring how our brains are wired for transformation and discover the extraordinary in the ordinary. From understanding the biological roots of storytelling to unlocking the secrets of spiritual maturity, each episode offers insights to empower yo ...
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The Baub Show

Bob Merrick

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In a new media world where everyone is a critic with a platform and feels unheard if they are not pointing out what is wrong, The Baub Show focuses on what is right! The Baub Show prides itself on celebrating life, pop culture and positivity! Host Bob Merrick welcomes artists from varying genres from acting, singing, stand-up comedy, dancers, chefs and even reality stars! Paired with fresh co-hosts each week, the show likes to look back on career highs, accomplishments as well as career insp ...
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Screen Slate Podcast

Screen Slate

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Bi-weekly podcast covering the film scene in New York and beyond. Hosted by Screen Slate editor Jon Dieringer and a revolving cast of contributors in conversation with different guests. Sponsored by the German Film Office.
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What if the church’s leadership crisis isn’t a failure of character, but a failure of systems? In this conversation, Jesse Cruikshank sits down with longtime friend, pastor, author, and leadership reformer Lance Ford to examine how modern leadership models—largely borrowed from business and industry—have quietly reshaped the church in ways Jesus ne…
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In this episode, Jessie Cruickshank talks with pastor and author Mandy Smith about the quiet, surprising ways God brings renewal through ordinary people and ordinary acts of faith. Mandy shares the unfolding story of her congregation in Brisbane, the deep personal healing she’s experienced in the process, and the unexpected movement sparked by one …
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In this deeply moving conversation, Jessie sits down with longtime friends Jessica and Andrew Arnold to talk about their journey raising and discipling their daughter Sarah, who is autistic, vibrant, socially curious, and wonderfully unique. The Arnolds open up about Sarah’s early diagnosis, the beauty and complexity of her faith, and the ways they…
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In this episode, Jessie Cruickshank sits down with her friend and fellow leader Tracy Matthews for a rich, grounding conversation on what it means to cultivate spiritual attunement in life and leadership. Tracy shares vivid imagery God gave her during prayer—living water seeping into dry, cracked places—and invites us into a way of leading that beg…
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In this episode, Jessie Cruickshank sits down with Geoff and Cyd Holsclaw to explore their new book Landscapes of the Soul—a beautiful and practical guide to understanding attachment theory through the lens of faith and discipleship. Together, they unpack what it means to live with secure, insecure, or disorganized attachment, reframed as landscape…
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In this episode, Jessie Cruickshank sits down with evangelist and disciple-maker Mike Wiggin to talk about surrender, grace, and what it truly means to follow Jesus. Mike shares his powerful story of moving from legalism to life—how an encounter with grace changed everything—and why he’s passionate about helping people not just believe in Jesus, bu…
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In this episode of Ordinary Discipleship, Chris, Jacob, and Jessie Cruickshank dive into the vital practice of listening in discipleship. Too often, leaders rush to “fix” problems rather than truly hearing the heart of the person in front of them - or what the Holy Spirit might be saying in the moment. The conversation explores: Why listening requi…
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Is real change possible, or are we just learning new ways to cope? In this episode of the Ordinary Discipleship Podcast, Chris, Jacob, and Jessie Cruickshank dive into the deep work of transformation through Jesus. Together they explore how discipleship is not about behavior modification or memorizing verses, but about being recreated by the Holy S…
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Relationships are messy and that’s by design. In this episode of the Ordinary Discipleship Podcast, Chris, Jacob, and Jessie dive into why conflict isn’t something to avoid but a key part of how God shapes us in community. From roller derby and MMA stories to real-life church leadership challenges, they unpack how healthy conflict can actually stre…
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So many of us have been handed a one-size-fits-all blueprint for connecting with God—quiet times at dawn, journaling in solitude, structured study. But what happens when that doesn’t work for you? Does that mean something’s wrong with you? Or with your faith? In this episode, Chris, Jacob, and Jesse dive into the reality that not everyone connects …
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What does it really mean to grow as a disciple of Jesus and are we starting in the right place? In this episode, Chris, Jacob, and Jessie Cruickshank unpack the “Five Cs” of discipleship: Christ, Community, Character, Calling, and Competency. Together, they explore why starting with a skills assessment or plugging people into ministry roles based o…
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When is it time to speak up and when is it wiser to stay silent? In this episode of Ordinary Discipleship, Chris, Jacob, and Jessie dive into the tension we all feel in relationships, ministry, and daily life: knowing when and how to bring something up. Jessie shares a powerful framework rooted in four key questions - Do I have God's eyes, heart, t…
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What does it look like to multiply disciples and churches across cultures, languages, and borders? In this episode, Jesse Cruickshank sits down with Obe and Jacqueline Arellano, leaders of Exponential Español, to explore the vibrant and growing movement of the Spanish-speaking church—both in the United States and throughout Latin America. From thei…
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🎙️ Apostles: Generals, Gardeners…or Something Else? In this Bonus Conversation, Rob Wegner, Alan Hirsch, and Brian Johnson gather over pizza to explore why apostolic leadership has become a crossroads moment for the Church. They unpack two radically different visions: apostles as empire-building generals vs. apostles as humble architects who cultiv…
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Bonus Conversation: Same Vocabulary, Different Spirit What happens when the same fivefold vocabulary is used—but fueled by a radically different spirit? In this episode, Rob Wegner, Brian Johnson, and Alan Hirsch dive into the fork in the road facing the Church today. On one side: the rise of the New Apostolic Reformation, steeped in hierarchy, dom…
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What does it take to shift a church from programs to real discipleship? In this episode, Jessie Cruickshank talks with Bunny Correa and Sheldon Lacsina about their journey transforming a traditional, performance-based church into a community of everyday disciple makers. They share how deep friendship, vulnerability, and years of holding space with …
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Bonus Conversation: The Rise of the Servant Equippers (ft. Lucas Pulley) Episode Description: What kind of leadership helps movements multiply without losing their soul? In this Bonus Conversation from the Hubology series, Rob, Brian, and Lucas Pulley (Tampa Underground) unpack the hidden role of servant equipers—those who quietly cultivate health,…
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What does it really mean to walk in spiritual authority—and why do so many of us confuse titles and positions for the real thing? In this episode, Christine Caine and Jessie Cruickshank get honest about the difference between worldly influence and Kingdom authority, why identity matters more than a job description, and how genuine spiritual power a…
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In this episode of the Ordinary Discipleship Podcast, Jessie Cruickshank talks with Jerry Lathan and Steven Manchester about their new book You Will Be Peter. They explore the life of Simon Peter - flawed, passionate, and deeply relatable - and how his story speaks to our own journey of following Jesus. You’ll hear: Why Peter’s failures matter How …
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In this bonus episode, Rob and Brian tackle one of the most pivotal questions in movement leadership: When is it time to form a hub team? Drawing from years of experience with the Kansas City Underground, they explore why starting with structure can sabotage multiplication—and how waiting on the Spirit’s timing creates space for healthy, decentrali…
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In this Bonus Conversation, we explore the power of contextualization within decentralized movement leadership through a deep dive into two distinct hubs in the Kansas City Underground: Zero Hour, equipping high school students, and Western Edge, serving a broad suburban and rural network. Cory McElvain (Zero Hour) and Brian Johnson (Western Edge) …
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In this episode of the Ordinary Discipleship podcast, Jessie sits down with Willie Robertson where they talk about his book Gospeller and discuss the tension between faith and control. They reflect on how easy it is to default to managing outcomes instead of trusting God, and they share how vulnerability is not weakness but the space where faith is…
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Bonus Conversation: Equipping Gatherings vs. Weekend Services - What's the Difference? In this bonus episode, we explore how equipping gatherings form a radically different culture than weekend services. It’s not about inspiration—it’s about incarnation. From stories of mission to discovery-based training, these gatherings function more like a gym …
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In this Bonus Conversation, we dive into the heart of equipping—the very lifeblood that powers decentralized disciple-making. As we explore hubs, tools, and training, we uncover the core of equipping at the edge. This isn't about more content; it’s about transforming lives and multiplying Kingdom work through intentional, practical support. Check o…
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What if conflict isn't something to avoid—but something God actually designed for our growth? In this episode, Jessie, Chris and Jacob dive into the messiness of relationships, discipleship, and community. With stories ranging from roller derby and MMA training to awkward church staff meetings and theological tension, this conversation explores how…
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In this Bonus Conversation, we launch our new series on Hubology—a made-up word for a very real need in decentralized movements. As disciple-making spreads and microchurches multiply, one essential structure keeps emerging again and again: the Hub Team. So what is a hub? Not a headquarters. Not a hierarchy. A hub is a catalytic team that equips, co…
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Millar How do we know if we’re contextualizing the Gospel—or just colonizing with it? What if our good intentions are still laced with cultural superiority? Could cultural humility be the next great frontier for disciple-making movements in the West? In this episode of The Starfish and the Church, I sat down with Dr. Longa and Matt Millar, co-autho…
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What does it mean to disciple people who carry unseen wounds? In this episode, Jessie Cruickshank explores trauma-informed discipleship—what it is, why it matters, and how it can transform the way we help others grow in Christ. Jessie shares how neuroscience and spiritual formation intersect, the importance of psychological safety in Christian comm…
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In this episode, you get to eavesdrop on a Starfish Accelerator, and hear from Lance Ford, as wee unpack the idea of a system story—the invisible narrative that shapes how we lead and live. Drawing from scripture and missional thought, we explore why real change in the church won’t happen until we rewrite the system story around the Lordship of Jes…
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In this episode of the Ordinary Discipleship Podcast, Chris, Jacob, and Jessie dive into a topic many avoid—how to navigate the endings of discipleship relationships. While the beginning of a mentoring journey is often exciting, knowing when and how to conclude a season of discipleship can be challenging. Together, they explore these key questions:…
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In this episode of Ordinary Discipleship, Chris Johnson, Jacob, and Jessie Cruickshank dive into the critical balance between fun and faith in youth ministry. Are we simply entertaining young people, or are we truly discipling them? The discussion explores the power of mentorship, the need for spiritually mature leaders, and why young adults crave …
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Alan brought the heat and light in the Starfish Accelerator , pouring out his heart on Incarnational Mission. Now, it's here for you—to challenge, inspire, and equip both you and those you disciple and serve. What does it mean to truly live the mission of Jesus? In this episode, we unpack the Six P’s of Incarnational Mission—Presence, Proximity, Pr…
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Join the Starfish Substack for free. If our training methods don’t look like Jesus’ way of making disciples, why do we expect Jesus-like results? In this Bonus Conversation, we dive into a topic that is easy to overlook but is critical for the multiplication of disciples and leaders—pedagogy. That’s right. We’re talking about how we train people, n…
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In this episode of The Ordinary Discipleship Podcast, we sit down with Reyna Martinez to discuss the challenges of finding mentorship and discipleship as a young adult. Reyna shares her deeply personal journey—growing up in youth group, experiencing the impact of intentional leadership, and then struggling to find discipleship after aging out of tr…
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Is a prayer movement something we’re waiting for—or something Jesus is already leading? In this episode, we unpack the five coals that ignite and sustain a culture of extraordinary prayer. We start with the story of Esther, an elderly woman whose hidden life of intercession shaped generations. From there, we explore what it takes to cultivate a mov…
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In this episode of the Ordinary Discipleship Podcast, Chris Johnson, Jessie Cruickshank, and Jacob Hoyer discuss the complexities of relationships and the intentionality required in discipleship. They explore how friendships can serve as a foundation for discipleship, the importance of being open to relationships with those who are different from u…
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One of the powerful disciple-making tools we’ve been exploring this month in the Starfish Accelerator is the Relational Spheres of Jesus—a framework that helps us map out our relational world based on Jesus’ own pattern of ministry. Recently, Rich Robinson walked us through this tool with remarkable clarity, helping us see how Jesus intentionally s…
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Join the the ⁠⁠⁠⁠Starfish Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠ for free. You'll gain access to you’ll gain access to practical wisdom, articles, tools, assessments and insights that foster your growth as a Starfish Leader In this Hot Takes episode, Rob Wegner, Alan Hirsch, Lance Ford, and Chris Caputo explore the rise of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and its implica…
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Join the the ⁠⁠⁠⁠Starfish Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠ for free. You'll gain access to you’ll gain access to practical wisdom, articles, tools, assessments and insights that foster your growth as a Starfish Leader In the latest episode of The Starfish and the Church Podcast, Rob Wegner sits down with Dele Okuwobi, founder of the Wonder Association, to explore the …
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In this bonus conversation, Rob Wegner and Brian Johnson tackle a pressing question heard from many church leaders in recent years: Is it possible to transition small groups to microchurches? Drawing from years of experience and coaching, they share candid insights and hard-earned wisdom (also called mistakes and failure) about the challenges and o…
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In this episode of The Starfish and the Church, we had a powerful conversation with my friend Jeff Vanderstelt, who stepped into the chaos after Mark Driscoll’s departure from Mars Hill. This is the story the Rise and Fall of Mars Hill Podcast chose not to tell you. We covered: What really happened after the rise and fall The painful realities of s…
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Join the Starfish Substack. Healing what's within. How do we heal? Where do we begin? What questions do we need to ask? In this thought-provoking conversation, Rob Wegner, Lance Ford, and Michelle and Chuck DeGroat delve into the profound themes of healing, trauma, and connection within the church. Drawing from their personal experiences and theolo…
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Delve into the complexities of shared leadership within ministry settings. From navigating youthful leadership roles to handling crises in remote expeditions, they share personal anecdotes and insights on fostering healthy leadership cultures. Discover how embracing vulnerability, trust, and shared responsibilities can transform toxic leadership dy…
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In this bonus conversation, Rob Wegner and Brian Johnson dive into the heart of what it means to navigate the challenges of cultivating networks of microchurches. Drawing on years of experience and plenty of missteps, they reflect on the key lessons captured in the *Four Mistakes Early Microchurch Practitioners Make* article. The discussion offers …
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Explore the pitfalls of conventional leadership paradigms and the transformative power of leading as the first follower of the Holy Spirit. Discover how attending to your own soul is the first step toward guiding others to fulfill their unique callings, fostering unity under the banner of heaven. Dive into practical insights and resources for equip…
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Join the the ⁠⁠⁠Starfish Substack⁠⁠⁠ for free. You'll gain access to you’ll gain access to practical wisdom, articles, tools, assessments and insights that foster your growth as a Starfish Leader "Collaboration is the most needed technology." "No great Kingdom thing happens alone." In this episode of the Starfish and the Church podcast, hosts Lance…
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Detangling leadership and discipleship unravels the common dilemma of feeling stuck as a leader. From personal anecdotes to profound insights, they navigate through the fears and insecurities that often accompany leadership roles. With honesty and authenticity, they discuss the transformative power of vulnerability, highlighting how embracing one's…
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In this first episode of Hot Takes, hosts Rob Wegner and Lance Ford, along with guest Chris Caputo, delve into the controversial topic of Trump prophecies and their implications within the charismatic church. They explore the nature of prophetic ministry, the importance of community discernment, and the criteria for evaluating prophetic words. The …
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