Mixing a cocktail of philosophy, theology, and spirituality. We're a pastor and a philosopher who have discovered that sometimes pastors need philosophy, and sometimes philosophers need pastors. We tackle topics and interview guests that straddle the divide between our interests. Who we are: Randy Knie (Co-Host) - Randy is the founding and Lead Pastor of Brew City Church in Milwaukee, WI. Randy loves his family, the Church, cooking, and the sound of his own voice. He drinks boring pilsners. ...
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Kyle Whitaker Podcasts
Join Dustin and Kyle weekly to hear real conversations about what it's like to live for Jesus. Silence The Talk was created to encourage one another to silence the talk around you by living a God honoring lifestyle. "For it is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people." 1 Peter 2:15.
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Welcome to Hills I'd Die On: a podcast where writer/comedian Taylor Cox invites guests to discuss and debate unpopular opinions they feel so strongly about, they'd be willing to die on a hill over them.
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What Conservative LGBTQ+ Christians Can Teach Us About Love
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1:23:28Text us your questions! Dawne Moon and Theresa Tobin are back to discuss their book Choosing Love, which represents the culmination of their research over the last several years into the community of conservative LGBTQ+ Christians. This book expands on many of the topics we covered in our first conversation while adding insightful material on the v…
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Episode 65 - Take More Terrain from the Enemy!
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27:27Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk about the importance of being strong and courageous when it seems like most people are spreading fear. "Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged, for the Lord your God will be with you wherever you go." Joshua 1:9By Silence The Talk
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Deconstructing the Culture Wars with Laurie Johnson
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1:22:46Text us your questions! What happens when political labels lose their meaning? Dr. Laurie Johnson, political philosopher and president of the Maurin Academy, joins us to unpack the tangled roots of America's culture wars and explore pathways toward overcoming our divisions. We discuss her book The Gap in God's Country: A Longer View on Our Culture …
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Reframing the Bible with Zach Lambert
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1:06:58Text us your questions! Ready to transform your relationship with the Bible? Zach Lambert, pastor of Restore Church in Austin and author of Better Ways to Read the Bible, offers a healing pathway for those wounded by scripture in this candid conversation. Growing up in a Southern Baptist megachurch during the "fundamentalist takeover," Lambert expe…
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Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk about their purpose and how everything they do is to shine the light on Jesus and make him known to the world. "So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God." 1 Corinthians 10:31By Silence The Talk
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Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk about prayer and how we tend to make it way more complicated than it is. "Rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus." 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18By Silence The Talk
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Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk about Dustin's bad day and how important it is to stay rooted in Christ to fight the spiritual battles. We may lose some battles but Jesus won the war. "The thief comes to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." John 10:10…
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Episode 61 - Co-Parenting Through Addiction Pt. 2 - w/ Leah Whitaker and Steve and Shonda Bourdo
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44:17Send us a text Part 2 - Leah, Steve and Shonda continue their story of how co-parenting through addiction led to healing and forgiveness. "Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity…
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Episode 60 - Co-Parenting Through Addiction Pt. 1 - w/ Leah Whitaker and Steve and Shonda Bourdo
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1:00:23Send us a text Part 1 - Leah, Steve and Shonda share their story of how co-parenting through addiction led to healing and forgiveness. "Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity." …
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Text us your questions! What happens to prayer after you rethink religion and spirituality? Does it feel empty, confusing, or even impossible? If so, you're not alone. In this episode, the three of us discuss our journeys from structured, wordy, and sometimes demonstrative prayer lives to something altogether different. Randy reflects on his charis…
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Episode 59 - Let's Talk About Money - Interview w/ Michael and Corinne Oheran
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46:23Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk with Michael and Corinne Oheran about how tithing to the church helped them trust God and live a life of generosity. "Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not relu…
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Episode 58 - Where Do We Go from the Ashes? - Interview w/ Chad and Kayla Larson
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48:19Send us a text Kyle and Dustin talk with Chad and Kayla Larson about how God, counseling, and community saved their marriage. Listen to this powerful message of forgiveness and hope. "Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ." Ephesians 5:21By Silence The Talk
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Episode 57 - Podcast Takeover! - w/ Shauna Preslar and Jen Healey
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38:00Send us a text Do you ever feel like your relationships are surface level? Shauna and Jen talk about what influences their relationships and walk with Jesus. "But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." Matthew 6:6…
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Episode 56 - Faith Way Bigger Than a Mustard Seed - Interview w/ TJ Petzold
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45:10Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk with TJ Petzold about the death of his father Kevin, and how he lived a God honoring life that impacted so many people. "Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High, will rest in the shadow of the Almighty." Psalms 91:1By Silence The Talk
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Gender, Faith, and Privilege after Transitioning: Paula Stone Williams
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1:11:28Text us your questions! What happens when a successful religious leader transitions genders and loses everything? Reverend Dr. Paula Stone Williams takes us on her extraordinary journey from privilege to authenticity. Paula once stood at the pinnacle of evangelical success – CEO of a large nonprofit, television host, magazine editor. But beneath th…
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Episode 55 - Don't Just Listen to the Word, Do What It Says!
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52:10Send us a text Dustin and Kyle discuss James chapter 1 and how we need to live out our faith and not just talk the talk. "Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says." James 1:22By Silence The Talk
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Episode 54 - Streams in the Wasteland - Interview w/ Keith Ramsey
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41:59Send us a text Listen to Keith's story about how finding community at a recovery program changed his life. "See, I am doing a new thing! Now it springs up; do you not perceive it? I am making a way in the wilderness and streams in the wasteland." Isaiah 43:19By Silence The Talk
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Adding to the Good Pile: Women's Ordination and the Role of the Pastor's Wife with Beth Allison Barr
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1:09:23Text us your questions! How did the role of "pastor's wife" replace ordination for women in church history? Is the news that there was women's ordination in church history hitting you unexpectedly right now? It's cool, we get it; take a moment and come back when you're ready. Historian and actual pastor's wife Beth Allison Barr returns for a potent…
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Episode 53 - Answer the Call - Interview w/ Billy and Janet Cobern
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1:03:19Send us a text Janet prayed for years that God would change Billy's prideful and self-absorbent heart. Listen to Billy's story about how finally answering a call from God changed his life. "May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Chri…
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Send us a text It's been one year since the start of Silence The Talk Podcast! Dustin and Kyle talk about their most impactful moments and how God has used the podcast to hold them accountable and grow their relationship with Him. "For it is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people." 1 Peter 2:15…
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Sexual Ethics, Queer Theology, & Responding to Critics: Matthew Vines (Part 2)
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1:23:11Text us your questions! Matthew Vines returns to discuss how the revised edition of his book addresses critiques from prominent theologians, the distinction between affirming theology and queer theology, and the possibility of affirming, orthodox Christianity. Matthew unpacks the scholarly consensus that modern sexual orientation concepts simply di…
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Episode 51 - You're Never Too Far Gone - Interview w/ Suzanna and Tedd Warren
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1:15:16Send us a text Suzanna shares her testimony about how her messy life didn't keep God from meeting her where she was. Listen to how God healed her and is using her story to heal others. "Heal me Lord, and I will be healed; save me and I will be saved, for you are the one I praise." Jeremiah 17:14By Silence The Talk
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Episode 50 - Triumph Over Tragedy - Interview w/ Greg and Evelyn Ondersma
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1:08:00Send us a text Greg and Evelyn Ondersma talk about how they experienced several tragedies as a young married couple and how they saw God through it all. "I remain confident of this: I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord." Psalms 27:13-14…
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Episode 49 - Faith Pays Off in the End - Interview w/ Joey Williamson
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30:43Send us a text Joey Williamson tells his story about how his mother's faith saved his life and led him into a relationship with Jesus. "Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see." Hebrews 11:1By Silence The Talk
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Pope Francis' Legacy: A Global Church in Transition
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1:14:54Text us your questions! Pope Francis, a man who inspired even many Protestants and non-Christians with his refreshingly prophetic voice, has died. The process to select his successor is ongoing as we release this. To help us understand what's happening, as well as its historical significance, we're talking with our friend and returning guest Shaun …
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Send us a text Dustin and Kyle discuss what it was like being a new Christian and give advice to help others navigate the early stages of following Jesus. "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old is gone, the new is here!" 2 Corinthians 5:17By Silence The Talk
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Does the Bible Affirm LGB Relationships? Interview with Matthew Vines (Part 1)
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58:39Text us your questions! Matthew Vines is here to discuss the revised and expanded edition of his influential book God and the Gay Christian, marking eleven years since its initial release. The book sent shockwaves through evangelical Christianity and remains a powerful and compelling case for an affirming reading of the Bible for those who want to …
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Episode 47 - I See You - Interview w/ Jeff Arnett
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51:14Send us a text Dustin and Kyle sit down with Pastor Jeff Arnett and talk about life after vocational ministry and how our purpose is bigger than our jobs. "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:9By Silence The Talk
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Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk about the importance of putting God first above everything and how "good things" may not be good for us. "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and he will establish your plans." Proverbs 16:3By Silence The Talk
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Episode 45 - A Heart Posture of Surrender - Interview w/ Jerry & Leslie Cardinal
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38:57Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk with HighPoint Electric owners Jerry and Leslie Cardinal about how surrendering their business to God gave them peace in the storm and a massive influence for the Kingdom of God. "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your pa…
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Text us your questions! This is a conversation we've been avoiding: how are we doing now that Donald Trump is president again? As we had a break between interviews, we decided to try to unpack how we're feeling, what we're doing, what we've learned about ourselves, and what we're worried and hopeful about. This is an unusually impromptu and unpolis…
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Episode 44 - For His Kingdom Not Ours - Interview w/ Pastor Todd Meert
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58:19Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk with Harvest 10:2 Pastor Todd Meert about his unconventional style of church and how God is using it to reach the lost for Christ. "He told them, 'The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into the harvest field.'" Luke 10:2…
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Episode 43 - How Hope Changed Everything - Interview with Author John Boyle
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34:13Send us a text Dustin and Kyle interview author John Boyle about his book Appalachian Kid and how the hope of Jesus changed his life. "But those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint." Isaiah 40:31…
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Re-Release - Outrage Porn, Echo Chambers, and the Seduction of Clarity: Interview with C. Thi Nguyen
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1:02:25Text us your questions! This is a re-release of an episode from our second season when we spoke with philosopher C Thi Nguyen. We think it bears re-listening in our current moment. ===== What happens when we seek simple answers in a complex world? Philosopher C Thi Nguyen takes us into the machinery of belief, understanding, and value formation, ex…
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Episode 42 - Faith and Endurance - Interview w/ Jim Flikkema
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44:23Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk with Jim Flikkema about how he found God after several near death experiences. Find out how Jim's struggles led him into an intimate relationship with Jesus. "Dear brothers and sisters, when troubles of any kind come your way, consider it an opportunity for great joy. For you know that when your faith is tested, …
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Episode 41 - Help Us Find a Cure! - Interview w/ Ryan Ladd
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36:10Send us a text Dustin and Kyle interview Ryan Ladd from the Dad Show Podcast to get the word out about MPS1 Hurler Syndrome and how it has affected his family. Help us spread the word and find a cure for this disease. Go to kennedyladd.org for more information about how you can help. "Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in h…
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What Happens When You're Done with Religion Altogether?
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1:19:50Text us your questions! What happens when the foundation of your identity crumbles beneath you? When the lens through which you understood the world no longer works? Psychologist Dr. Daryl Van Tongeren joins us to explore this profound transition that one-fifth of Americans have experienced—leaving religion behind. Drawing from eight years of groun…
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Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk about the power of sharing your story. Kyle shares his testimony about how God tore down a wall that gave him freedom to be completely unashamed at work. "They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony." Revelation 12:11By Silence The Talk
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Episode 39 - For Better or Worse - A Conversation w/ our wives
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54:20Send us a text Dustin and Kyle have a conversation with their wives about God and marriage. "Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ." Ephesians 5:21By Silence The Talk
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Unpacking Open and Relational Theology: Interview with Tom Oord
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1:20:45Text us your questions! Tom Oord is back! This time, we're discussing his "main thing": open and relational theology. We explore what it means and its significance in reshaping our understanding of God, love, prayer, and more. Tom answers our questions graciously, and we try to convince Randy that he's wrong. How is open and relational theology dif…
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Episode 38 - Strength in Weakness - Interview w/ Jon Petro
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55:26Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk with Producer Jon Petro about how God used the aftermath of divorce to draw Jon closer to Him. "But he said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me." 2 Corinthians 12:9…
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Episode 37 - Keeping Your Mental Health in Check - Interview w/ Erica Schaefer
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42:37Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk with Erica Schaefer about the importance of community and how it impacts your mental health. "How good and pleasant it is when God's people live together in unity!" Psalms 133:1By Silence The Talk
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Will Deconstructing End My Marriage? A Conversation with Keri Ladouceur
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1:25:46Text us your questions! This episode explores the complexities of spiritual evolution and its impact on marriages and relationships. Our friend Keri Ladouceur shares her wisdom, and we discuss stories of navigating changing faith and the strain it can place on intimate partnerships. We cover how questioning beliefs impacts relationships, emotional …
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Episode 36 - Overcoming Adversity - Interview w/ Tom Maher
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42:09Send us a text Tom Maher tells his testimony about how being paralyzed in a tragic motorcycle accident brought him closer to God. "Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you." James 4:7-8By Silence The Talk
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Send us a text Dustin and Kyle discuss the fruits of the Spirit, the gifts of the Spirit, and the importance of walking with the Spirit. "Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit." Galatians 5:24-25…
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When Seeking Jesus Drives You Out of the Church: Interview with Scot McKnight & Tommy Preson Phillips
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1:12:43Text us your questions! Faith deconstruction has become a defining trend in American Christianity, and disagreement persists about what’s driving it. In this episode, we talk with Scot McKnight and Tommy Preson Phillips about their book Invisible Jesus, which considers why so many Christians are critically re-examining their faith. Rather than trea…
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Episode 34 - Your Suffering is NOT for Nothing
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34:18Send us a text Dustin and Kyle discuss the hope we have in Christ in our times of suffering. "I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed." Romans 8:18-19By Silence The Talk
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Nicholas Ma on Division, Vulnerability, and Doing What You Can
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1:11:46Text us your questions! This is one of our favorite interviews we've ever done. Nicholas Ma (son of famed cellist Yo-Yo Ma) is a filmmaker best known for producing the 2018 documentary Won't You Be My Neighbor? about Fred Rogers. We speak with him about his latest documentary Leap of Faith, which follows a group of Christian pastors from diverse so…
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Episode 33 - Barbershop Evangelism - Interview w/ Andre Lockett
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42:48Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk with Andre Lockett about discipleship and how important it is to use your gifts and talents to glorify God. "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." Matthew 28:19By Silence The Talk
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Episode 32 - Worship God with Your Life - Interview w/ Shauna Preslar
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43:23Send us a text Dustin and Kyle talk with Shauna Preslar about what it means to worship God with our life. "Let everything that has breath praise the Lord. Praise the Lord." Psalms 150:6By Silence The Talk
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