Think, Pair, Swear, a podcast exploring the strange, sometimes ridiculous, sometimes dead on portrayals of the field of education in popular culture. Hosted by Justin Orscheln, former elementary Music teacher turned assistant-principal and Ronnie Lathrop, retired high school English teacher.
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Justin gets summer schooled this week on the perils of life for the small town gay, found families and some symbolism for the AIDS crisis of the 90s via the life of Muriel Heslop. There’s also party with laundry room make-shift urinals, whipped icing, several bad Australian accents, ugly dresses, no explod…
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Extra Credit: Listener Thoughts & Graduation Songs!
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1:02:38Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Extra Credit: Bad Graduation Songs edition. There’s some listener mail that involves a potential murder, a student attack, an angel teacher, and a media recommendation for student teachers. Justin and Ronnie each bring a song featured at many a high school graduation and tries to sway the other that it’s i…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Bad principals. Bad students. The bad concept of Saturday detentions, this one had it all. Besides Bender catching a glob of his own spit, we were subjected to an ugly duckling divisive makeover, a girl making out with the man who sexually and physically assaulted her, magical weed that admin can’t smell, …
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Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge
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1:34:52Got a question or comment? Send us a text! The nightmare here isn’t just Freddy Krueger and it’s not just a coach into S&M. Going to high school in Springwood isn’t wise but neither is offroading through Joshua Tree National Park, Jared Fogel, A Chorus Line, racist cereal, fungal growth, science teachers with snakes, twerk cleaning, exploding parak…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! The middle school thematic unit ends with more adolescent awkwardness. What happens when a girl with no friends thinks she’s a YouTube influencer? Besides many bad choices, there’s Gucci, sex education, mean girls, Ronnie making everything about himself, an invitation to throw axes in the Crossroads, shirt…
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Pen15 (Season 1 Ep. 1 and Season Pt. 1 Ep. 6)
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1:33:13Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Ever want to go back and revisit your middle school years but as your adult self? Yeah, the hosts don’t either. Along the way they encounter carpooling, that one annoying teacher who wants to be best friends with students, the meaning of U Gis, dial-up modems that make Ronnie horny, the erotic novella Slee…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! The middle school thematic unit kicks off with this story of a kid navigating social media in 2006 during the summer before high school starts. What were the top social media used in 2006? They get into multilingual households, sibling drama, AOL Instant Messenger, a gay mom with cancer, Joan Chen, skatebo…
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Derry Girls (Season 1, Episode 1 and 3)
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1:22:07Got a question or comment? Send us a text! They turned on the closed captions and tuned into Northern Ireland for this week’s examination of Catholic school in the 90s. They discuss the Troubles and 5 troubled teens as well as The Cranberries, diary etiquette, jean jackets, new school year student assemblies, the English, peeing, dead nuns, dead pe…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Keke Palmer’s not in a raunchy comedy or judging the performance of the House of Mugler on Legendary. She’s an eleven year old going to the spelling bee. Along the way there’s also Ike and Tina Turner, DEI executive order violations, a fame whore principal Justin identifies with, mean girls, a Reading Coun…
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Beverly Hills 90210 S2 Episode 20 and 21!
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1:34:06Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Once again, West Beverly is ripe with real issues plaguing education. Just kidding. Instead it’s about a coach in Xanadu drag, shrunken nads, Brenda acting entitled as usual, stalking insurance scammers, roid rage at the Peach Pit, grunting, “Walking on Sunshine” by Katrina and the Waves, Donna falling dow…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! The playground is not for the weak this week, especially when recess is more Lord of the Flies nightmare than break in the school day. Come outside with us. We have all the ice cream you can eat, rim jobs, comfort vaginas, missing shoes, Quasimodo, solitary confinement, beautiful boxes, Lisa Barlow, giant …
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Juno with Special Guest: Crystal Frommert!
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1:49:41Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Juno - As far as glimpses into the world of education as light with this film we did learn that giving the pregnant girl side eye isn’t what one does and that cross country coaches should talk to their male athletes about wearing jockstraps. Other than that there were potatoes with lots of bacon yum, jugs …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! There’s some listener mail: a sub who was given shitty lesson plans and a toxic hall pass, an argument with a relative over Christmas, sick leave controversies in Chicago Public Schools, and a question about the best and worst movie teachers. The hosts look through New York Magazine’s suggestions for the b…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Billy Bob Thornton is yelling at students and worried about his coaching career in our pick this week. A far cry from Sling Blade and eating biscuits with mustard on them. This is a sports film, the hosts favorite genre, and it has it all: Boobies, child abuse, duct tape, an injured cheerleader, money spen…
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English Teacher (Season 1, Episode 1 and 2)
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1:43:20Got a question or comment? Send us a text! The allegations surrounding the star of the show conflicted the hosts as they truly love the show. And what’s to love about a gay teacher stirring things up at a high school? PTSD, insane workout routines, burnt french fries, sugar sprinkles, mean moms, the NEA, a butt grab, the horror book club of 2015, a…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Well this turd was picked again by Justin and pee-yew. What happens when Julia Stiles tries to dance hip-hop? Mom drives head on into a semi to avoid having to watch her, for one; and white privilege, Project Runway challenges in the back of a Buick, Truman Capote, cafeteria smoking lounges, “Ghetto Cowboy…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Mr. Moore seems to be the most accurate portrayal of an educator this far in the pod, but his students on the other hand. Sheesh. Get ready for Russian stereotypes, the pimping of a red-head, Quiet on the Set: the Dark Side of Children’s TV, the inability to navigate NYC, Coma by Robin Cook, Jamiroquai, ba…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Miss Beadle was a mess. If she wasn’t falling out of a carriage, she was releasing her students to die in a blizzard. Along the way, we encounter dumb Able, dumb Carrie, popcorn sex, Charles’s fine ass, that bitch Mrs. Olsen, that bitch Nelly, clay voodoo dolls, a lesson in spelling three letter words, stu…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! The Holdovers - What do you do when you’re tasked with watching the students stuck in an all boys school over Christmas? Well, besides staying drunk you also: enforce a daily regime, watch The Newlywed Game, break up fights, not investigate the smell of marijuana, spray yourself with Glade, give everyone M…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! What do you do with a stubborn girl who won’t listen to reason but in the end always learns a valuable lesson? Give her a cartoon on Saturday morning TV. She also gets to watch lesbians play rugby, to hypnotize the town with synth music, illustrate white privilege, protest sexism in television, and along t…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Justin admits fault in choosing this stinker. For a film set in a high school with a school cheer team, there is a glaringly obvious omission of adults. A homeroom teacher takes roll and that’s it. Instead we have personal money spent on a misogynistic choreographer, a not-gay boyfriend, a gay cheerleader …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Justin’s favorite movie so far and Ronnie is having flashbacks to teaching the novel. Is Beth the biggest villain yet? In addition to answering that question, there is a horrible coach, Speedos, a broken plate, photography nightmares, dates at McDonalds, barking, advice from Judd Hurst, a horrible trip to …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Justin and Dalton’s worst nightmare of teens dance towards the camera opens this turd of a movie. Along the way there is sex education, bomb shelter sexual coercion, someone’s schlong flopping out, pox marked bikers, Polynesian appropriation, men in goggles, bowling ball choreography, couples spinning into…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Extra Credit: A Field Trip and Classic Back-to-School Ads Listener mail: A dick is drawn on a truck, a metal BB breaks the skin, someone doesn’t care for Ronnie’s political rants and just in time for Halloween there’s a ghost in a closet. Field trip: The hosts take part in a Traitors-esque competition and …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: The data from 2023 is in on teen drug use and the numbers, although shocking, haven’t gone up. Can Justin guess the top five teens are into? How many drugs listed did Rue do in the first two episodes of Euphoria? Getting Schooled: Whao. Who knew that three of the last 4 of the Fall curric…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Justin points out that the word “teenager” came into heavy use in discussions of Rebel Without a Cause. They discuss a short history of the teen in film as the 1950s saw teens as a market for film while filmmakers sought to exploit teen rebellion in film. Good thing that stopped happening…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: A real performing arts school in NYC is losing its drama partner and almost didn’t finish out the season. Can all the famous alumni save it? Not so much. Getting Schooled: Remember my name. (FAME!). Remember, remember, remember. Our hosts would care to forget parts of this 70s fantasia of…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! (Season 2, Episodes 18-19 Has Anyone Seen Arnold?). Anticipatory Set: Some teachers lack the skills to help students who are grieving. Ronnie found a good recourse to help and shared the story of his worst day in education. Getting Schooled: Oof. This one. Well they go back to the 70s and what did they fin…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Justin gives a history of alternative schools and their various incarnations over the years. Ronnie shares some alternative school experiences he had in districts. Getting Schooled: Well there’s not much to laugh at with this one, go figure. Instead there is fried chicken on the run, the …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: A college in California is banning students sleeping in their cars, but what about unhoused students just trying to get an education? With rent and tuition astronomical right now, young people are living out of their cars more, and an LA writer has a suggestion. Getting Schooled: What hap…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Teachers stealing ideas from other teachers isn’t a new concept, but it’s one often ignored and sometimes ridiculed. And Justin says that shouldn’t be the case. Teachers need to be thieves. Getting Schooled: What happens when a teacher wants to put her students first and ends up destroyin…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Data shows that puberty is starting earlier for children. What does that mean in an era of “It’s the parent’s role to educate kids about sex?” Thoughts are shared. Getting Schooled: Ever wanted to host a lock in at school? Neither do we. Plus: Jay and JD Vance have something in common, Co…
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Dawson's Creek (Season 1--Episode 6 and 7)
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1:49:09Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Are there alternatives to handing out detentions to students? One assistant middle school principal as 3 suggests and not a one that would work at the high school level. Getting Schooled: Oompa loompa doopity doo. We’ve got another puzzle for you. And it involves yet another student / tea…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: What’s the real life story behind Mean Girls and who is the real Regina George? Well turns out she’s now a suburban mom, but was she as horrible as the fiction version of her high school life? Getting Schooled: We have another principal doing things no real principal would do. And also: T…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Summer Schooled: Camp - Sleepaway Camp What could go wrong at a summer camp that refuses to close after multiple deaths of campers and counselors? A three foot boiling pot of salty corn, an aunt who talks like she’s in a film from the 1930s, curling irons, literal back stabbers, sit-ups into asses, Judy’s …
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Summer Schooled: Race For Your Life, Charlie Brown!
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1:25:22Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Summer Schooled: Camp - Race for Your Life, Charlie Brown Was it a comment on internment camps or a glimpse into a post-apocalyptic world, campers? You decide. We follow the gang from Peanuts on a trauma filled adventure. What could happen in a world with no adult supervision? A menstrual flag, feral child…
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Summer Schooled: Wet Hot American Summer
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1:33:22Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Summer Schooled: Camp - Wet Hot American Summer Hold onto your butts and don’t light those farts on fire, campers. We visit a hot mess parody of 80s summer camp sex comedies. What could happen on the last day of camp? Talking cans of vegetables, anal sex in a shed, horny gum chewing, children giving relati…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Summer Schooled: Camp - Little Darlings Summer break continues, campers. What happens when two girls place bets on who loses their virginity first? Gay coding, adolescent lung disease, a staff member with the hairiest back in recorded cinema history, a gas station condom machine exploding, “Miranda?” in th…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Summer Camp: Theater Camp Welcome to summer break, campers. This summer we are covering five films set at summer camps. What happens when the matriarch of a camp for theater kids goes into a strobe light related coma at a production of Bye, Bye Birdie? One man/woman shows for bedtime stories, classes on pa…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! There’s listener mail involving Pez dispensers, psychotic nuns, Justin supplying Emily Valentine with rolls of quarters, and teachers that don’t like authority figures. They put two School House Rock songs on trial and Judge Jeff Vincent (Ronnie’s other half) sentences one of them to die as it’s a battle f…
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Fast Times at Ridgemont High (With Special Guest: Matt Mitchell!)
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1:50:15Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: A year after the release of this film, Ronald Reagan sounded the alarm on American education called “A Nation at Risk”: a series of lies and hyperbole that kicked off a narrative of teachers as villains and public education as a failure. Repercussion still felt today. Schooled: Former hig…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: Ronnie attempted to have Chat GPT humorously summarize a real lawsuit involving a teacher let go for testing positive for drugs after having an epileptic seizure. Does a school district have the right to drug test teachers? Looks like the Connecticut courts have an answer and the host have an ans…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: People of color are not going into education and many are beginning to notice. How do colleges and school districts attract diverse hires especially when DEI programs are being demonized by politicians on the right? Justin found an article with some solutions. Schooled: It’s a trip back in time t…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: A teacher sets up a fight club in their school, a student is injured and parents file a lawsuit. Yes. This really happened. Why? Just why? While student engagement was probably at an all time high, it isn’t advised. Schooled: This lesbian girl fight club saga has it all: Pre-DUI Marshawn Lynch, c…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: Is your principal a psychopath? A teacher in Australia worked with one and wrote a book about it. How can you tell if you too are working with one? This article gives us some hints, and it hits a little too close to home for Ronnie. Schooled: What if your teacher was a narcissistic sociopath? Thi…
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Return to Beverly Hills 90210 (S2 E15 & 16)
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2:03:01Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: The rich kids at an elite New York school are hosting parties at exclusive venues and charging each other for the experience. They turned it into a niche money making opportunity and good for them. Would our hosts attend that kind of party back then? Schooled: Two episodes. The emergence of Emily…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: Guess what? Journalists frequently leave out the voice of educators when covering education, and frequently focus on firings and school board happenings. Shocker. One researcher has an idea to shift that but will journalists or school districts listen? Schooled: Another teacher tries to get with …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Justin has a history lesson on federally funded indigenous boarding schools, and the trauma they caused Native Americans in the United States. All in the name of assimilation and a cheap labor force. Horrifying. Getting schooled: Keeping with the light tone, our hosts critique this World …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: What were the different student groups you had when you were in school? Ronnie offers some data from a study on high school hierarchies and where students see themselves from 2023. Were Ronnie and Justin a part of the popular kids? The jocks? Avid listeners already know the answer to this…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: Between the serious news item vs something a bit lighter, choices were made and then regretted. Justin, in lieu of it being his birthday “season” would like to hear a favorite memory Ronnie has from celebrating his birthday. Stories were told. Nothing like a 30-something homosexual celebrating th…
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