Best Andrew Nathanson Podcasts (2025)

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Glen Henry: Winning Arguments in the Car (Alone) 1:15:40

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We welcome back visionary storyteller Glenn Henry (Belief in Fatherhood) as he discusses his new book, Father Yourself First (dropping November 4th). Glenn gets real about the hard work of parenting, moving past the romanticized YouTube version. He shares the personal crisis that fueled the book, including throwing a tantrum in the office mirror an…

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First Draft Live Ep 17: Inside CRE’s New Operating System (with Christian Ulbrich) 27:41

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After years of cautious experimentation, CRE’s biggest players are finally scaling artificial intelligence. JLL has been at the forefront of it, launching an in-house AI platform called Falcon that is cutting deal timelines from weeks to hours and automating the drudgery that once bogged down teams. The result is higher revenue per head, higher suc…

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Special Edition: John Santora on WeWork’s Second Act (Live at CREtech) 49:30

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Live from the CREtech main stage at New York’s Javits Center on October 21, WeWork CEO John Santora sat down with Bisnow Editor-in-Chief Mark Bonner to unpack one of CRE’s biggest comebacks — from bankruptcy to EBITDA positive, $2.2B in revenue and 550K members, including 47 of the Fortune 100. Occupancy has surged past 90% in Midtown Manhattan and…

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Andrew East: Squeezing the Genetic Sponge 1:31:40

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The fellas sat down with former NFL long snapper, Vanderbilt grad, PhD candidate, and full-time force of nature, Andrew East. Dave kicks things off by recounting his extremely awkward cornhole tournament experience, a moment of social anxiety where he suddenly found himself in a new "gauntlet" of gigantic, ripped athletes. Andrew then dives deep in…

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157: "Werewolves of London" vs. "Godzilla" 1:01:12

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Aooooooooo... there goes Godzilla? We're adding songs about monsters to the ol' Halloween party playlist and we need to know which of the late '70s weirdos is going on there first? Do we admire the perfect hair and tailoring of Warren Zevon's "Werewolves of London" or do we go scream "My god!" as we get looked down upon by Blue Öyster Cult's "Godzi…

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Peter Enns: "Dad, Snakes can't talk." 1:23:46

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Dr. Peter Enns joins the fellas for a candid discussion on faith, complexity, and institutional conflict. Enns recounts the "very scary" reality of losing his academic boundaries after teaching at Westminster Theological Seminary for 14 years, following the controversy surrounding his book, Inspiration and Incarnation. He delves into the core issue…

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First Draft Live Ep 16: Paused, Not Canceled: Inside CRE’s Next Cycle (with Sally Ann Flood) 26:58

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The optimism that permeated commercial real estate at the start of 2025 has died down as the year has gone on. That's the headline from Deloitte's annual CRE executive survey, but Deloitte partner Sally Ann Flood said on this week's episode that the responses showed an increasingly bifurcated market. Some asset classes, like data centers and wareho…

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156: "She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy" vs. "Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy)" (with Angela Collier!) 1:10:52

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When did country music get so dumb? We've pinpointed it down to two points along the path that changed country music forever, and we've invited physics expert and '90s country fan Dr. Angela Collier to help us decide which of the proto-bro country songs actually holds up, "She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy" by Kenny Chesney or "Save a Horse (Ride a Cowb…

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Dave and Jon: When to Push Your Kids 1:06:59

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They demanded it, so here we are: satisfying the masses with a conversation featuring just Jon and Dave. But even a simple chat can’t escape the daily grind. The fellas dive deep into the brutal reality of music promotion and Jon explains the existential crisis behind his deadpan viral video where he unwraps his own albums as gifts, and why his new…

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Lee Dixon: "I Won't Even Say Their Name." 1:18:18

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First Draft Live Ep 15: AI Bubble Math Meets Real Estate (with Michael Pearce) 30:58

1M ago30:58

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The AI trade is reshaping markets and CRE is riding shotgun. A surge of capital into chips and data centers has turned AI into the backbone of U.S. growth — pushing tech spending to dot-com-era highs and doubling data center pipelines. But will it pay off? Alarm bells are ringing that adoption may not match optimism. That could quickly mean swathes…

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155: "Kryptonite" vs. "Hanging by a Moment" (with Chris Payne!) 1:06:24

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It's the year 2000, mom is taking you to soccer practice and the radio station is playing two quasi-rock adult contemporary songs over and over and over again! But which minivan rock song of Y2K still holds a dear place in our hearts, 3 Doors Down's "Kryptonite" or Lifehouse's "Hanging by a Moment"? See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy a…

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Pure Athlete: Why Dads Cuss 1:01:31

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Welcome to the ultimate therapy session for dads trapped in the youth sports mess! We’re coming in scorching with Pure Athlete co-founders Britt Lee and Brad Williams, who bring their hard-earned wisdom (and admissions of doing a lot of things wrong) to the table. We tackle the agonizing questions facing parents in the thick of it. Why are we compr…

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First Draft Live Ep 14: The Decision: What The Fed Just Told CRE (with Jim Costello) 35:00

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The starting gun has gone off: The Federal Reserve lowered interest rates 25 basis points. Now CRE can be off to the races. At least that’s the narrative. In practice, CRE cares more about long-term debt, and the 10-year Treasury ran counter to expectations and actually rose 10 bps, Jim Costello, MSCI’s director of real estate economics, said on th…

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Matt Nathanson: Looks Like a Child, Punches Like and Adult 1:32:12

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This week we have Matt Nathanson joining the fellas for a chat that dives into MySpace nostalgia, discussions about Hugh Grant-level hair, and the general 'churn' of parenting – sometimes involving mooning your daughter from the garage. The banter is sharp, the compliments are lavish (especially about Matt's violently attractive looks), and the sel…

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First Draft Live Ep 13: Debt Meets The Housing Crunch (with Sharon Karaffa) 26:11

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It’s a high-pressure year for multifamily. Looming maturities, tough capital markets, changing policies, a major shake-up of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on the horizon and intensified national attention are all converging to complicate the sector. But multifamily fundamentals are strong, Sharon Karaffa, president of multifamily debt and structured f…

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Dave and Jon: Rock Star Dreams & Home Improvement Nightmares 1:06:55

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Welcome back to a "Classic D&J" episode as the fellas reunite after what feels like ages. They cover the latest twist in Dave's long-shot quest of getting his album into the hands of a Beatle and the comical challenge of penning a compelling note to a music icon. They also go deep on their shared home improvement struggles, mundane DIY victories, a…

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154: "The Whole of the Moon" vs. "Under the Milky Way" (with Andrew Unterberger!) 1:08:56

2M ago1:08:56

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Song vs. Song is back from our unscheduled hiatus!! We finally cover two songs you might not know but your favorite artists definitely know and probably covered at one point. What is the best celestial and vaguely Celtic college rock song of the '80s, The Waterboys' "The Whole of the Moon" or The Church's "Under the Milky Way"? if you have the time…

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BONUS: The MTV VMAs weren't even on MTV this year 1:23:15

2M ago1:23:15

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We keep saying this is the worst VMAs ever, and we're always right. This year hit new lows of being both irrelevant and unwatchable, thank god for Sabrina. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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First Draft Live Ep 12: The Bond Market’s Warning To Real Estate (with Chris Stanley) 28:36

2M ago28:36

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Global bond markets are under siege and CRE is caught in the crossfire. UK 30-year gilt yields surged to their highest level since 1998, and volatility in U.S. Treasuries has repeatedly brushed them against 5%. For commercial real estate, that means more expensive debt, climbing cap rates and global investors second-guessing allocations. Christophe…

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The Benevolent Comic: Mike Goodwin on Making Everyone Laugh (and Think) 1:26:38

2M ago1:26:38

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This week we have comedian (and bow-tie enthusiast) Mike Goodwin joining Dadville to share his blend of *wit, warmth, and wisdom. Mike is celebrated for his clean, clever comedy that makes audiences think AND laugh. Goodwin discusses his deeply personal look at the gut-wrenching experience of dropping his daughter off at Vanderbilt University and t…

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A Josie and the Pussycats bonus episode! 57:23

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While Todd and Lina wind down their break, a special Bonus Episode released from the vault! Enjoy the greatness of Josie and the Pussycats! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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First Draft Live Ep 11: CMBS Pain Is Only Beginning (with Ethan Penner) 27:59

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This episode of First Draft Live is presented by Agora. The godfather of the CMBS market issued a warning that commercial real estate is not out of the woods of its downturn, which is a potential problem for the U.S. economy. “The losses in CRE are so big that the rippling effect of those losses to the economy are so big that they could be quite ha…

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Dann Huff: White-Knuckle Sessions 2:00:04

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Join us for an unforgettable conversation with music legend Dann Huff, whose career is so extensive it takes "four finger scrolls" on Wikipedia. Discover his candid insights into his dual role as a prolific session guitarist and an award-winning producer Dann opens up about playing on colossal, core-memory songs for global icons like Michael Jackso…

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First Draft Live Ep. 10: Inside The Construction Danger Zone (with Les Hiscoe) 28:32

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This episode of First Draft Live is presented by Agora. It’s been a chaotic year for the construction industry. Between a volatile tariff regime, elevated interest rates and increased pressures on its labor force, contractors have had to navigate one of the most difficult environments in recent memory. On this week’s First Draft Live, Shawmut Desig…

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Melissa Errico and Patrick McEnroe: Holding Court and Centre Stage 1:17:44

3M ago1:17:44

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This episode is so jam-packed with talent, our brag sheets literally broke! Join us as we chat with Broadway sensation Melissa Errico, a self-proclaimed "solopreneur" who's singing better than ever, and tennis legend Patrick McEnroe, the longest serving Davis Cup captain in history. After 27 years of marriage, this duo navigates demanding careers a…

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First Draft Live Ep. 9: Opportunity Zones: We're Not In 1.0 Anymore (with Steve Glickman) 32:33

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The original Opportunity Zone program drove more than $100B into real estate and business investment, but it also faced criticism it missed its mark, failing to spur development in the areas that needed it most. The One Big Beautiful Bill Act just made OZs permanent and it aims to fix all that, tightening the rules on what areas may be designated O…

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Hilarious Tales of Bad Hotels, Travel Disasters, and Tubs of Hair Gel! 48:25

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A few weeks ago the fellas headed out to the Heaven on Earth Festival in Moab, Utah for the first ever LIVE episode of Dadville! Amongst the picturesque mountains, they break down some of the most outrageous tips and tricks for family vacations including a whitewater rafting trip turned VBS singalong, the baffling mystery of children packing tubs o…

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First Draft Live Ep. 8: Inside CRE's Tariff Turning Point (with James Bohnaker) 30:06

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Liberation Day Part 2 has come and gone, and the U.S. has more clarity on the global trade landscape. Some of the levies will have CRE breathing easier, but some — including the 35% rate on Canada, a hugely important market for construction material imports — might be worse than the industry feared. Already, tariffs have driven construction costs u…

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When is it OK to Skip Church? with Elliott Cherry 1:10:17

3M ago1:10:17

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At this point, Elliott Cherry is the official Pastor of Dadville. We bring him back for a yearly check-in, where we kick things off with giggles before digging into how much pastors pay attention to church attendance. Then, Elliott drops some golden takes on the vital role of forgiveness in marriage, why corporate worship is a powerful realignment …

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First Draft Live Ep. 7: Can The Grid Keep Up? Inside The Data Center Surge Reshaping CRE (with Dan Rabb) 32:07

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The rise of AI is pushing data centers to their limits. Calls for bigger, denser facilities are increasing and tenant power requirements are doubling in many markets. It’s still not enough to meet the needs of today’s market or tomorrow’s users. On this episode, Bisnow National Data Center Reporter Dan Rabb said keeping the momentum of the data cen…

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A special High School Musical episode (with Big Joel!) 57:33

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While we take our break, a little taste of what you can get on our Patreon! We invited Big Joel to do one of our special Patreon bonus episodes, this time about the High School Musical trilogy! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.…

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From Homeless to ... Here with Brett Swayn 1:50:35

3M ago1:50:35

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Get ready for a wild ride as we chat with Brett Swayn, a chef from Perth, Australia, whose life journey is anything but ordinary. You'll discover how his profound spiritual experiences included feeling God playfully call him "dummy" and being "absolutely smashed in the spirit." Hear about his less-than-glamorous arrival in Nashville via a Greyhound…

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First Draft Live Ep. 6: Has Real Estate’s Crypto Moment Finally Arrived? (with Gabe Marans) 28:49

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Though a few brave (or crazy) pioneers have dabbled with using crypto in commercial real estate, the industry has mostly sat on the sidelines for years. The reason: not enough regulation, no stability or guardrails. This week, that started to change. The passage of the GENIUS Act to create a framework for stablecoins, plus two other bills making th…

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Charles Kelley: "I'm A Little More Country Club" 1:07:43

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Dig coffee and vinyl? Help us out by taking this very short survey for a chance to win both! The fellas finally wrangled Charles Kelley! We kicked things off with his legendary brag sheet—apparently, they stopped counting at 80 bullet points! As one-third of Grammy-winning country trio Lady A, you definitely know "Need You Now" (and so does AC radi…

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First Draft Live Ep. 5: The Bill That Just Rewired Multifamily (with Alex Jessett) 30:15

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The One Big Beautiful Bill is now law, and its impact on housing could be massive. The Low-Income Housing Tax Credit received its biggest reform in 25 years, including halving the requirements of how much of its funding must come from municipal bonds. LIHTC and the Opportunity Zones program were both made permanent, and major adjustments to OZs — i…

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Chores, Contracts, and Core Memories 1:09:16

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The fellas are back from vacation and have lots to catch up on! Jon recently returned from Europe. He bravely transformed into "vacation Jon," embracing the holiday spirit by not stressing about money and being ready to spend "enchanted money," despite usually being more frugal. He even endured intense cycling in Mallorca and had a run-in (kinda) w…

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153: "Manchild" vs. "The Giver" 1:13:14

4M ago1:13:14

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Our follow-up to last year's "Espresso" vs. "HOT TO GO!" episode! How are the two big pop starlets of 2024 faring in 2025? We debate the weird reactions and rollouts of Sabrina Carpenter's "Manchild" vs. Chappell Roan's "The Giver"! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sel…

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First Draft Live Ep. 4: Where Is Global Capital Taking CRE Next (with Tom Taylor) 26:42

4M ago26:42

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U.S. foreign policy these days is a sea of uncertainty — CRE investors’ least favorite thing. From whipsaw tariffs to taxes seen as “revenge” against international players who don’t fall in line with Trump administration goals, money managers are increasingly tentative to put their money on American soil. This week, Trepp Senior Research Manager To…

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152: "Old Town Road" vs. "A Bar Song (Tipsy)" (w/Mark Grondin!) 1:15:15

4M ago1:15:15

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America loves hip-hop/country mashups that top the charts for 19 weeks! One was a TikTok fluke that changed the culture, one a legitimate country song from an outsider who rode a Beyonce cosign into Nashville, but which is better, Lil Nas X's "Old Town Road" vs. Shaboozey's "A Bar Song (Tipsy)"? See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and C…

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The Science of Siblings with Dr. Susan Dominus 1:03:39

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In this episode, the fellas interview journalist and author Dr. Susan Dominus about her book, "The Family Dynamic, A Journey Into The Mystery of Sibling Success". Have you ever wondered how birth order affects things? Susan shares profound insights into how siblings uniquely shape each other's lives, often more profoundly than parents. This is an i…