Off The Grid is a podcast for artists, writers & small business owners who want to leave social media without losing all their income. ✌️ Our host, Amelia Hruby PhD, shares stories, strategies & experiments for growing your business with radical generosity & energetic sovereignty. 🌐 Get the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit at offthegrid.fun/toolkit
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🏁 The State of Substack & How to Fall Back in Love with the Internet — with Seth Werkheiser
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1:00:50Seth Werkheiser was one of the first 3000 people on Twitter. Now he runs Social Media Escape Club and helps people get off X, Facebook, Instagram, and more. In this conversation, we chart how we’ve each spent 20+ years online — beginning with AOL, Tumblr, and Twitter all the way through Instagram, TikTok, and the current state of Substack. This one…
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💫 How to (Self) Publish a Book Without Social Media
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25:17Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back! Season 7 of Off the Grid officially kicks off next week. 🥳 This season we'll be digging into all things (self)-publishing without social media. I'm talking to writers, coaches, witches, and more about the magic of bringing our ideas to life and selling them in the marketplace. 😬 To get you in the mood, I'm …
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🌈 Your Attention is Sacred Except on Social Media — Exclusive Book Preview!
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15:41It's finally here, my friends... your first preview of my book! In this episode, I fill you in on exactly why Your Attention is Sacred Except on Social Media. Then in a you-heard-it-here-first moment, I play you the beginning of the audiobook! And I implore you to join the book waitlist at yourattentionissacred.com — so you can get a copy when it r…
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🙌 21 Tiny Pep Talks for You & Your Creative Business
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1:12:20Welcome to part one of our season six finale! Today I’m joined by TWENTY past guests sharing tiny pep talks recorded just for you. Tune in for encouragement on everything from surviving Capitalism to fixing your sales page to overcoming overwhelm and getting exactly what you want. You’ll hear from: [6:30] Blaize Hall of Weeping Willow Wellness [12:…
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🪞 Clear Channels, Secret Marketing & Making More Money Sans Socials — with Sarah Gottesdiener
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53:10Here’s my truth— I am absolutely, positively obsessed with this episode. Today on the pod, I’m joined by the one-and-only Sarah Faith Gottesdiener. She’s popping over from Moonbeaming to pull back the curtain on how the Moon Studio has made more money than ever this year — with a secret marketing strategy and a super minimal social media presence. …
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🤳 Put Down Your Phone & Abandon Your Brand — with Casey Johnston
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47:29Casey Johnston is a weight-lifting memoirist and former editor at Vice, Ars Technica & the New York Times’ Wirecutter. She’s been reporting on social media and smart phones for over a decade, and in that time, she built her career on Twitter then left it behind in favorite of a paid newsletter and a phone with fewer than ten apps on it. In this con…
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🚸 “How Do I Grow Without Social Media??” — Live Coaching with Melissa Wong
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1:15:27Welcome to an episode unlike any other! Today I'm joined by Melissa Wong of Coherence Studio for a live advising session where I help her work through the age-old question: "how do I really grow my business without social media?" Then she turns the mic around on me to dig into how Off the Grid has actually grown — and what you can learn from that p…
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🌻 3 Ways I’m Gently Reinventing My Work Right Now
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36:45Welcome to Paradigm Shift Summer! 😎 This month on the podcast, we're rooting into radical change with ease, softness, and poolside vibes. Today I'm taking you behind-the-scenes of my business and sharing 3 ways I'm releasing 2025-so-far and gently redesigning my work/life this summer. I'll guide you through the deep shifts and practical actions I h…
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😊 How Your Business Can (& Can’t) Make You Happy — $300k+ Launches with Sam Vander Wielen
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53:34I’m not a fan of the #girlboss. But I am a fan of women who build wildly successful businesses. And I especially appreciate when they offer eyes-open advice about what it really took to get there. Today on the show, I’m joined by Sam Vander Wielen, a lawyer-turned-entrepreneur who’s built a multi-seven-figure online business through consistently $1…
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🏦 How Freelance Work Can Solve Your Problems — with Sarah Jutras
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58:27I started my self-employment journey by freelancing… but somehow I’ve never talked about it on the pod! So today I’m joined by Sarah Jutras of Huzzah Studio and Freelance for Life to dive into how to build a freelance career and/or land a few gigs to make ends meet. Together we unpack a few common Qs, including: What is freelancing? 🤺 Who is freela…
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🛠️ How to Create Biz Systems (for Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs) — with brigitte
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56:18When my business becomes overwhelming, I turn my focus to my systems. Why? Because systems are the how of everything I do in my work and life. I have a system for doing my laundry, a system for checking my inbox, and a system for making this podcast. And even when I have no system for doing something… that’s still a no-system system! Designing my s…
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👩💻 How to Reinvent Yourself (& Your Website) — with Anita Cheung
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55:232025 has been a year of pivots, restarts, and beginning again. So this week on the pod, we’re talking about reinventing yourself and your website! To do that, I’m joined by yoga-teacher-turned-meditation-studio-owner-turned-designer Anita Cheung AKA Neets! Anita has pivoted business topics, models and personal brands many times over the past decade…
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↪️ Knowing When to Pivot — The Realities of Food-Based Retail with Molly Clark of Taking Stock Foods
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56:16Welcome to Off the Grid CPG edition! 🍜 Today on the show, I’m joined by Molly Clark of Taking Stock Foods to talk about farmers’ markets, food retail, and the realities of consumer product goods businesses. Molly is the co-founder and CEO of Taking Stock Foods, a functional beverage company based in St. Paul, MN. She is dedicated to being a leader …
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🌀 Navigating the Messy Middle — Small Business in Slow Times with Jen Carrington
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1:13:10Popping in with a behind-the-scenes bonus episode — where Jen Carrington and I pull back the curtain on everything that's been messy, feel-bad, and chaotic in our businesses this year! We talk about exactly how much our revenue is down, the problems we've diagnosed with our marketing and messaging, and what we're focusing on to stay in business thr…
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🗣️ The Relationships that Change Everything — Creatively Unleashing with Lauren LoGrasso
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54:06We talk about community all the time on this show. But what does it actually look like when relationships change the trajectory of your creative career? In this episode, I’m joined by Lauren LoGrasso to unpack all the relationships that led her to her current roles as an award-winning podcaster, producer of We Can Do Hard Things, and VP of Programm…
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💔 How to Break Up with Google, Amazon & Spotify
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47:28I broke up with Amazon and Google when I left social media in 2021, and this year I decided it was also time to quit using Spotify. Why? Well because my values are not aligned with enriching billionaires like Jeff Bezos, letting Google track my behavior everywhere, or supporting Spotify in paying artists pennies. So in this episode, I share a bit m…
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🌻 Can We Still Thrive Online? — Digital Wellness & Ethical Marketing with Amelia Knott
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1:03:54Today on the show, I’m joined by art psychotherapist Amelia Knott to explore and untangle the intersections of mental health, social media, creativity, and small business. We specifically take on the concepts of “digital wellness” and “ethical marketing.” And we have a nuanced conversation about how we really feel online and what it means to market…
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✊ Make the Movement Irresistible — Quiet Quitting Social Media with Edgar Fabián Frías
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1:05:02Edgar Fabián Frías is an artist, therapist, educator, curator, witch and so much more. Today, they join me on the podcast to talk about the decision they made to quiet quit Instagram at the start of 2025. Together, we explore: The works of art that changed our lives & nonlinear psychic collaboration Being impersonated on Instagram & how that can im…
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📢 Amplifying Attention for Under-Recognized Voices (Including Yourself!) — with Cher Hale
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1:01:18Cher Hale is one of my favorite people on the internet, and her newsletter Doing It For the Attention has taught me SO MUCH about getting my work in front of new people in a way that aligns with my body AND my business. In this conversation, we dive deep into the roots of attention and all the ways we can build community around our work — including…
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🙅♂️ How to Stop Feeling Stuck on Social Media — with Deanna deBara
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52:52Come on down for the 100th episode of Off the Grid!!! 🎉 To celebrate this milestone, we're returning to our roots with a fresh conversation about how to leave social media (if you so choose). Today Deanna deBara from Season of Stuck podcast joins me to explore: 🫣 why we get stuck on social media 🥸 how to stop doomscrolling & feeling trapped on the …
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💏 You CAN Make Friends Without Social Media — with Caitlin Metz & Rebekah Taussig
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1:06:41OMG CROSSOVER EPISODE! 🫶 Today on the show, I'm celebrating our 99th episode (and my four-years-off-social-media anniversary!) by sharing a conversation I had with Rebekah Taussig and Caitlin Metz for their podcast Scratch That. We get into things I've NEVER talked about publicly before, including: How my three-year-old self picked my present-day c…
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💭 Radical Imagination in Hard Times — with Sarah Arantza Amador
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56:47How do we imagine new possibilities when it feels like our well has gone dry? This week I'm joined by author, tarotist, and Jungian creativity coach Sarah Arantza Amador of Hawthorn Mountain Tarot. Together we explore: The lineage of radical imagination How to move through creative blocks in your business Ways to (re)connect with imagination even w…
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🫂 Escaping the Social Media Trance — Community + Agency with Elise Granata
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1:06:45ESCAPE THE TRANCE ⁕ REMEMBER YOUR AGENCY ⁕ BUILD COMMUNITY Today on the pod we have a very special guest — Elise Granata of GROUP HUG! Elise is here to chat with me about how social media erodes our agency + community building efforts — even if these platforms started as supportive relational hubs. Join us as we wind through our teen years on Tumbl…
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🖌️ Copywriting, Pain Point Marketing & 3 Easy Ways to Improve Your Sales Pages — with Nicole Cloutier
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1:00:34What if selling didn't have to feel sleazy? And the words on your website could cast a magical spell for your ideal clients/customers instead? Today, I'm joined by copywriter and podcaster Nicole Cloutier to talk about how to be more specific in our messaging and simple tips to write better sales pages. Tune in to hear about: Nicole's journey from …
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🌊 What Really Happens When You Leave Social Media — with Leah Kern
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1:08:46Leaving social media isn’t always the most profitable decision… but maybe it taps into something even more lucrative? In this episode, I’m joined by Leah Kern, an anti-diet dietitian who left social media a year ago and has experienced ups and downs in her business since. For the first half of our conversation, we explore Leah’s path onto and off o…
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🧿 Visibility & the Joy/Grief of an Online Life — with Lisa Olivera
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1:00:02Today I’m joined by writer, therapist, and creative Lisa Olivera to talk about how her work and life have shifted as her Instagram platform's grown to over 400,000 followers. Together, we dive into: Two reasons Lisa joined Instagram + how it felt as her account grew The allure of online business + what we’re “supposed to do” when we have a big plat…
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⏱️ Making Time: Creativity over Productivity — with Maria Bowler
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56:20How do we stay creative — when there’s so much to do and so much at stake? Today I’m joined by writer, coach, and retreat leader Maria Bowler for a practical and philosophical conversation about: The difference between productivity & creativity Why we don’t want to focus on “being efficient” or “maximizing ROI” How to actually be present (without f…
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🌀 The Reality of Being an Artist-Influencer in 2025 — with Arielle Estoria
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58:02It’s 2025 and everyone’s sick of social media… so what do we do now? Today we’re kicking off season six with a conversation with poet, author, actor, and model Arielle Estoria. Over the past decade, Arielle has cultivated a multi-faceted creative career while growing her Instagram following to over 100K people. In this vulnerable conversation, we e…
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🪦 Grieving Social Media — How to Process Your Feelings About TikTok, Meta & Everything Else [BEST OF]
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31:33TikTok's been banned (for a minute). Meta's removed fact-checking (for good?). 2025 has already been a big year in social media news, and if you're having some big feelings about it, this episode is for you. Today we’re grieving social media together, so we can remember what we loved, recognize what we miss, and prepare ourselves to step into what’…
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🍒 What's Next? 2025 Marketing Trends with Amanda Laird
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1:18:57Let's put the cherry on top of your 2025 marketing toolkit with a long-form episode on 2025 Marketing Trends! To do that, I'm joined by communications strategist Amanda Laird to chat about four things she's forecasting for the year ahead, including: AI operations & optimization — plus the need to disclose how we're using AI in our work 🤖 Big shifts…
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💞 Relationship Marketing 101 with Michelle Warner [BEST OF]
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50:53Today we're revealing the third tool in your 2025 marketing toolkit, and I'm resharing our BEST OF episode where Michelle Warner teaches us all about relationship marketing! With an MBA from one of the world’s top business schools and 15+ years experience growing small businesses, Michelle designs tiny companies that are built to last. She’s also t…
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🎙️ Podcast Guesting for Business Growth with Taylor Elyse Morrison
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51:02At long last, we’ve got an episode exploring all things podcast guesting! And to do that I’m joined by return guest, portfolio career expert, and founder of Inner Workout, Taylor Elyse Morrison. Together we get into: What podcast guesting is (and what it isn’t) How to know if you should start a podcast or focus on podcast guesting A pep talk for bo…
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📮 All Things Email Marketing with Allea Grummert of Duett
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1:10:29Welcome to our 2025 Marketing Toolkit! Today on the pod, we’re talking all things email marketing with Allea Grummert of Duett. Tune in to learn: 5 reasons email might be the best marketing channel for your business What a welcome sequence is + why it’s different than a nurture sequence How to find the right email platform for you Why email segment…
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Happy New Year & welcome to season five of Off the Grid! Today we're kicking off this year-in-biz with a fun new format — five episodes in five days! Press play to hear all about it, and tune in this week to learn: Our top 3 marketing strategies for 2025 Need-to-know advice for email marketing beginners & pros How to be a better guest on better pod…
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🫶 How to Feel Seen Off Social Media [BEST OF]
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30:57In this BEST OF episode, we dive deep what it means to feel seen and how social media is messing with our sense of self-worth and community connection. Tune in to hear me break down: What it means to "feel seen" online & offline Why visibility ≠ connection (or $ales) Ways to find connection in your work & life without being on the apps And if you'r…
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👋 The 5 Stages of Life After Social Media [BEST OF]
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32:06Today we’re diving into the emotional depths of what happens after you break up with social media. Because it turns out that logging off the apps is only the first step... Tune in to this BEST OF episode to hear more about: The stages of grieving that come before the stages of leaving Everything that comes up after you leave social media AKA burn o…
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✌️ Why I Left Instagram & a 5-Step Plan So You Can Too [BEST OF]
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30:07Welcome new friends from We Can Do Hard Things! In this BEST OF episode, I'm sharing the story of why I spent a decade investing my time, money & energy into Instagram...and how I eventually decided to leave all social media in April 2021. Tune in to hear about— Why I spent ten years investing in social media How Instagram makes us anxiously-attach…
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🪦 Permission to Change — Why Endings Are Messy with Amy Kuretsky
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1:33:21Welcome to the season four finale of Off the Grid! Today I'm joined by acupuncturist, herbalist, breathwork facilitator, + clinic co-owner Amy Kuretsky to talk about everything creative small business. In this conversation, Amy walks us through how she built a successful brick and mortar business AND a successful online business over the past decad…
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📌 How to Leave Social Media in 5 Steps or Less [MINI]
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9:08If Instagram, Tiktok, Facebook or X are giving you the ick... please let me offer this 5-step plan for leaving social media — without impacting your income! Tune in to learn all five steps in under ten minutes. Then grab our FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit to make your plan for what comes next in your work, biz + life. XOXO, Amelia…
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🧩 Decolonize Your Systems & Yourself — Neurodivergence & Notion with Podge Thomas
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51:59"These were very colonized institutions that I feel brainwashed me. And they brainwash a lot of people. So now as a business owner, creative & Notion consultant, what I get to do is decolonize my business and help my clients look at their own businesses through a decolonization lens." Today I’m joined by Podge Thomas for a reflective conversation a…
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Dropping in off-schedule with a reflection/reminder/rallying-cry that we have power as small business owners, and we can stand against everything Trump is + represents — especially if we do it together. Tune in for gentle provocations and a special invitation to join me at a free event Wednesday, November 20 @ 12pm CT. I hope to see you there. 🩵…
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🎢 What To Do When Nothing’s Working — with Jenny Blake
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52:37I’ve admired Jenny Blake’s work from afar for years. First for her seemingly endless success with book deals, big-name podcast guests, and six-figure corporate contracts. And now for her incredibly honest accounting of how her business dissolved during the pandemic and hasn’t rebounded since. So in today’s episode, Jenny joins us to share the highs…
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🪄 3 Magical Rituals to Transform Your Business — with Brigitte, Cecily Sailor & Ash Canty
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55:39Happy Halloween, business witches! 🧙 While I typically keep things pretty practical here at Off the Grid, this week I wanted to lean into the mystical, magical and alchemical aspects of creative business. To do that, I invited three brilliant practitioners to each share a unique and powerful biz magic ritual with us! ✨ Brigitte starts us off with s…
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🧿 How to Cultivate Creative Resilience — with Pascale Coté
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1:01:13Often when business isn’t going well, we think that we can fix it with a new marketing strategy or growth tactic. We look to new courses, fancy platforms, or expensive mentors to “save” us … but in my experience, what we actually need in these times is to tend to our inner reserves in deeper and more nuanced ways. So today I’m joined by Pascale Cot…
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🔑 Social Media Boundaries & Success on Substack — with Dacy Gillespie
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1:05:02This one goes out to all our listeners who are still trying to make it work on social media! Today I’m joined by Dacy Gillespie, a weight inclusive, anti-diet personal stylist who has grown her business online over the past decade and is now navigating a major shift from Instagram to Substack. Together, we talk about: The high-stress worlds of musi…
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🤖 Getting Out of Your Algorithm — with Kate Smalley
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48:15This week on the show we're getting into it with everyone’s least favorite internet friend — THE ALGORITHM 🙈 To do that I'm joined by Kate Smalley, a small business advisor, educator, and facilitator, who recently wrote a great piece about getting out of your algorithm that had me thinking more about what algorithms actually do and how we can work …
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🔮 How to Build an Intuitive Business — with Michelle Pellizzon Lipsitz of Holisticism
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1:05:52Happy October! This week we're kicking off Spooky Season with one of my favorite business witches — Michelle Pellizzon-Lipsitz of Holisticism! Michelle has taught me so much about online business, magical meaning-making systems, and spiritual practices. She's one of my favorite people to pay attention to on the internet, and I invited her on the sh…
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Today on the pod, I'm breaking down binary thinking and talking about why self-employment is a spectrum. Because your only options aren't 'have a full-time job' or 'have a full-time business'. In fact, there are about a million other ways you can support yourself! So if you've ever felt like an imposter or a failure or just been confused about how …
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👩🌾 “The Plants Made Me Do It” — Leaving Instagram with Liz Migliorelli of Sister Spinster
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1:11:41“I don’t want to perform my job. I want to be rooted in my work.” Liz Migliorelli is an herbalist, educator and storyteller who has crafted an herbal product line under the name Sister Spinster for over a decade. In this episode, Liz joins me to talk about how her business flourished on Instagram — growing to over 30k followers! — and the ways that…
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🌾 Sacred Labor, Small Business & Anti-Capitalism — with Megan Leatherman
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51:16If you love your work but wish you never had to work, today’s episode is for you! This week I’m incredibly excited to be joined by anticapitalist teacher, writer, vocational guide, and naturalist: Megan Leatherman of A Wild New Work. In this conversation, we begin by defining capitalism and anti-capitalism alongside Silvia Federici’s book Caliban a…
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