Best Refine Labs Podcasts (2025)

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how to measure marketing outside of pipeline | newsletter companion 30 May 2025 7:56

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#marketingtips #brand #demand #expand #marketing #b2bgrowth Welcome to a weekly check-in where I (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steph Crugnola⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week we dive back into Brand, Demand, Expand!Pipeline sho…

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MUST LISTEN: The 9 Biggest GTM Dysfunctions in B2B SaaS 53:09

1d ago53:09

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This week on GTM Live, Carolyn and Trevor unpack the 9 go-to-market dysfunctions quietly derailing growth at even the most ambitious B2B companies. They dig into why so many teams, despite big budgets, headcount, and tools, are still struggling to drive efficient growth. Spoiler: it’s not the people. It’s the system. You’ll hear why fragmented data…

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How Nick Huber Built a Multi-Million Dollar Empire with Social Media and "Boring Businesses" 24:00

1d ago24:00

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Nick Huber's Personal Profiles: Nick Huber on LinkedIn Nick Huber on X (formerly Twitter) Nick Huber on Instagram Nick Huber on TikTok Nick Huber's Personal Website Nick Huber's Books & Podcasts: "The Sweaty Startup" by Nick Huber (US Amazon) "The Sweaty Startup" by Nick Huber (UK Amazon) The Nick Huber Show (Apple Podcasts) The Sweaty Startup (App…

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Paid Social Playbook: LinkedIn Ads 55:52

3d ago55:52

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Evan Hughes and Ciara Hopkins host Libby Schell to discuss the 2025 playbook for Paid Social and LinkedIn ads. They explore the robust targeting capabilities of LinkedIn, revealing how businesses can harness this platform to maximize brand awareness and demand generation, but also advise against common missteps when approaching this expensive platf…

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Find Your Community | 22 May Newsletter Companion 5:32

7d ago5:32

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#marketingtips #brand #demand #expand #marketing #b2b Welcome to a weekly check-in where I (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steph Crugnola⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week we dive into Community and In Person Connection!…

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The Ugly Truth About Pipeline (Real Talk for GTM Teams Running on Broken Systems) 43:11

8d ago43:11

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This week on GTM Live, Carolyn sits down with Nick Flamini, host of the Sales Architecture Podcast, to explore the real reasons most go-to-market teams are still struggling—despite all the headcount, tools, and budget. They dig into the myth of “more BDRs = more pipeline,” and why most organizations are missing the data, architecture, and cross-fun…

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Implementing Modern Marketing Success Metrics | Judy Sheriff 40:43

10d ago40:43

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Refine Labs’ General Manager Judy Sheriff is on today to walk through how and why you should implement Refine Labs’ modern, tangible success metrics for your marketing team. Judy Sheriff shares her career story, starting with her entry into marketing in 2010, highlighting experiences with companies relying heavily on traditional metrics such as MQL…

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Brand! Demand! Expand! | 16 May Video Newsletter 7:47

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#marketingtips #brand #demand #expand #marketing #b2b Welcome to a weekly check-in where I (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steph Crugnola⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week we dive into Brand, Demand, Expand!…

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Rob Walling’s 20 Year Master Plan 32:52

15d ago32:52

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Rob Walling's LinkedIn Rob Walling on X (formerly Twitter) Rob Walling's Personal Website/Blog TinySeed’s LinkedIn TinySeed’s Website MicroConf’s LinkedIn MicroConf’s Website Startup for the Rest of Us podcast Rob Walling's book, The SaaS Playbook: Build a Multimillion-Dollar Startup Without Venture Capital Rob Walling’s other books Confessions of …

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168: From Wishful Thinking to Predictable Growth: Conversion Modeling for Realistic Forecasts With Bec Henrich, Traction Complete 27:26

16d ago27:26

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Databox is an easy-to-use Analytics Platform for growing businesses. We make it easy to centralize and view your entire company's marketing, sales, revenue, and product data in one place, so you always know how you're performing. Learn More About Databox Subscribe to our newsletter for episode summaries, benchmark data, and more In this episode of …

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Why Most B2B Brands Are Stuck—and How to Break Through | Megan Bowen on LevelUp Business 27:01

17d ago27:01

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From LevelUp Business: Megan Bowen, CEO of Refine Labs, joins JR Lay to break down how forward-thinking B2B brands can embrace change through adaptability, strategic reflection, and an evolved demand gen model. From redefining brand, demand, and expansion strategies to building internal change management discipline, this conversation offers a path …

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The Hidden Systems Behind REAL Product-Led Growth (with Wes Bush) 47:27

18d ago47:27

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Most SaaS teams claim they’re “doing PLG,” but very few are doing it well. This week on GTM Live, Carolyn and Trevor sit down with Wes Bush, CEO of ProductLed, to unpack why product-led growth often fails—and what to do about it. They explore why PLG isn’t just a pricing model or trial strategy, but a deep, systems-level shift that most teams under…

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MAXimize Your Results | 9 May Newsletter Companion 4:38

21d ago4:38

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Last year we launched Maxwell: our "DemandGPT" chatbot in The Vault, but now we're unlocking the gate and letting him loose. Head over to our website, fire off up to 10 questions, and get instant, free access to thousands of pages of expert content in seconds. It’s super simple: ➡️ Go to refinelabs.com ➡️ Look for the blue chat icon in the bottom r…

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Paid Search Playbook - Google Ads in 2025 56:45

24d ago56:45

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Megan Bowen and Evan Hughes host Ciara Hopkins and Dale Harper to discuss the 2025 playbook for Paid Search ads. The discussion starts by centering on the current state of paid search in 2025, focusing on it as an intent channel or demand capture channel. Megan emphasizes the need for B2B companies to adopt an optimal budget allocation strategy tha…

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Start a Short Form Video Strategy in 3 Steps | 1 May Newsletter Companion 9:55

29d ago9:55

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Welcome to a weekly check-in where I (⁠⁠⁠⁠Steph Crugnola⁠⁠⁠⁠) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week we describe (and show in real time) a 3 step short form video strategy to dip your toes into the content pool!…

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Exposing the Attribution Lie That’s Costing You Millions 58:41

29d ago58:41

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Everyone’s analyzing win rates, but too few teams are asking the harder question: how did that opportunity even begin? This week on GTM Live, Trevor and Carolyn break down the most overlooked stage in go-to-market: what happens before a lead becomes a lead. They unpack why early-funnel signals (the ones that come before forms, meetings, or MQL scor…

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LinkedIn Growth Hacks You Need in 2025 with Tom Hunt (UnF*ck My Startup) 39:48

29d ago39:48

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Tom Hunt’s LinkedIn Tom Hunt’s X (Formerly Twitter) Adam Robinson’s LinkedIn Adam Robinson’s X (Formerly Twitter) Pete Crowley’s LinkedIn RB2B on LinkedIn RB2B Newsletter RB2B Website Unfuck My Startup on Apple Podcasts Full episode on YouTube Channel Past Episode: OLD WAY/NEW WAY with Adam Robinson of Retention.com Confessions of a B2B Entrepreneu…

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Paid Social Playbook: LinkedIn Ads | May B2B Roundtable 56:16

1M ago56:16

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Evan Hughes and Ciara Hopkins host Libby Schell to discuss the 2025 playbook for Paid Social and LinkedIn ads. They explore the robust targeting capabilities of LinkedIn, revealing how businesses can harness this platform to maximize brand awareness and demand generation, but also advise against common missteps when approaching this expensive platf…

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Building an Effective Video First Content Strategy | Erik Jacobson 39:31

1M ago39:31

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Erik Jacobson, CEO of Hatch, joins Evan and Steph to talk about building an effective video first content strategy. As a pioneer in video-first content strategies, Erik shares his insights on the evolving landscape of B2B marketing, emphasizing the importance of adapting to changing consumer behaviors. He brings over a decade worth of actionable st…

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What Are Your Burning Marketing Questions? | 25 April Newsletter Companion 3:59

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Welcome to a weekly check-in where I (⁠⁠⁠Steph Crugnola⁠⁠⁠) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week we ask: what are your pressing marketing questions that we can answer, and who do you go to when you need an expert?…

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167: Demystifying lead sources with self attribution reporting (Chris Strom, ClearPivot) 33:26

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Databox is an easy-to-use Analytics Platform for growing businesses. We make it easy to centralize and view your entire company's marketing, sales, revenue, and product data in one place, so you always know how you're performing. Learn More About Databox Subscribe to our newsletter for episode summaries, benchmark data, and more Traditional attribu…

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Inside the GTM Black Hole: Why Marketing Can't Prove Impact 46:19

1M ago46:19

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Everyone’s trying to grow pipeline, but only few companies are measuring the part of GTM that actually creates it. This week on GTM Live, Trevor and Carolyn expose why the early-stage “signals” that actually drive pipeline are the ones most teams ignore. They dig into the real problem: teams aren’t tracking signals across the entire pipeline creati…

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Growing Into A Demand Gen Role | Steve Voith 44:32

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Steve Voith, VP of Revenue Marketing at Kyriba, joins Evan and Steph to talk about his career journey in Demand Generation. Steve discusses his journey from a novice marketer to a seasoned professional, sharing critical insights into the evolution of demand generation and the significant impacts of various learning experiences throughout his profes…

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Who's Got Your Back? | 17 April Newsletter Companion 3:59

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Welcome to a weekly check-in where I (⁠⁠Steph Crugnola⁠⁠) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week we ask: What communities are you part of as a marketer that help you connect and get support in this chaos landscape?…

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This Guy Has Worked With 60 B2B SaaS Businesses with Alan Gleeson of Contento 25:55

1M ago25:55

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Alan Gleeson's LinkedIn Alan Gleeson’s X (formerly Twitter) Contento’s LinkedIn Contento’s Website AGILITY SaaS B2B Marketing Guide Confessions of a B2B Entrepreneur is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so Check out our five most downloaded episodes: How To Start A Movement with David Heinemeier Hansson of 37signals Chris Walker Rants On Dar…

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How to Make it as a Solopreneur | Garrett Ira 40:57

2M ago40:57

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Garrett Ira, founder at Method, joins Evan and Steph to talk about his journey to becoming a Solopreneur - the successes, challenges, and everything in between. Garrett shares his unique experience of coming from an entrepreneurial family, which set the tone for his career in marketing. He talks about his transition from agency work to in-house rol…

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Telling the Story Beyond the Data | 10 April Newsletter Companion 5:58

2M ago5:58

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Welcome to a weekly check-in where I (⁠Steph Crugnola⁠) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week we ask: Does a graph tell the whole story? Probably not. Take a step back and make sure you're showing the bigger pictur…

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Why Your GTM Strategy Isn’t Working (Hint: Attribution, Data, and Unit Economics) 46:45

2M ago46:45

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This week on GTM Live, Carolyn and Trevor dive into the messiness of go-to-market strategy: overspending on pipeline, bad attribution models, and why marketers are often stuck doing RevOps jobs. Carolyn breaks down the trap of chasing new logos without clear ROI, while Trevor shares how his IT-to-marketing journey led to launching Passetto to fix t…

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How to Nail Down Messaging and Positioning | Megan Bowen on Building With Buyers 53:29

2M ago53:29

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*from Building with Buyers* Megan Bowen is CEO at Refine Labs. Refine Labs is a demand gen agency for growth stage and enterprise B2B SaaS companies. Also check out Ep. 78 "Hire For Customer Success, Not Customer Support." Here’s what we cover: Brand, Demand, and ABM. What's your approach to client work; I’m exploring the role that customers play i…

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Niching Down | 3 April Newsletter Companion 5:23

2M ago5:23

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Welcome to a weekly check-in where I (Steph Crugnola) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week is all about about niching down and clarifying landing pages, inspired by the Called to Action conversation with Tas Bober…

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RV240 - The End Of An Era (And Beginning Of A New One) - Go To Market Live Episode 45 24:18

2M ago24:18

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After a month-long sabbatical that took him across Australia, New Zealand, and Fiji, Chris Walker returns to Revenue Vitals with a life-changing announcement. In this deeply personal episode, Chris reveals a profound shift in his perspective and purpose that has led him to hand over hosting duties to Carolyn Dilks (Co-Founder and Managing Partner @…

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The Lychee Journey with Tomer Dean 32:35

2M ago32:35

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Tomer Dean's LinkedIn Ran Alter’s LinkedIn Peleg Aran’s LinkedIn Tomer Dean's X (Formerly Twitter) Ran Aleter’s X (Formerly Twitter) Peleg Aran’s X (Formerly Twitter) Lychee’s LinkedIn (Acquired by Fame) Lychee’s Website (Acquired by Fame) Download Apple as MP3 Download Spotify as MP3 Download Spaces as MP3 Confessions of a B2B Entrepreneur is hand…

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How to Tame Your Landing Page (And Your Career) | Tas Bober 56:08

2M ago56:08

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Tas Bober, Co-Founder of The Scroll Lab, joins Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola for a discussion focused on finding your niche in your career and on your landing page. Tas starts by talking through her evolution from an aspiring writer to a digital marketing expert, propelled by her early career experiences. Stressing the influence of pivotal mentors…

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Why Do You Listen to Marketing Podcasts? | 27 March Newsletter Companion 5:08

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Welcome to a new weekly check-in where I (Steph Crugnola) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week is all about ABM! Inspired by the recent B2B Marketing Roundtable, we sent out and are testing a template to narrow do…

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166: Identify your best-fit customer with 3 metrics (w/ Ryan Milligan, QuotaPath) 29:51

2M ago29:51

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ABM: How to Get it Right | March B2B Roundtable 52:15

2M ago52:15

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Evan Hughes hosts Judy Sheriff, Ciara Hopkins, and Scott Schilling on this ABM deep dive. They cover: Defining ABM: All our hosts agree that ABM should be seen as a comprehensive alignment of marketing and sales strategies tailored to target specific accounts by understanding ICPs. Tools: Organizations don't always need expensive tools like Demandb…

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A New Experiment | Newsletter Companion 19 March 2025 4:29

2M ago4:29

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Welcome to a new weekly check-in where I (Steph Crugnola) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week is all about experimentation, based on this week's episode of Called to Action featuring Canberk Beker.…

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A Day in the Life of a B2B SaaS CEO with Kris Rudeegraap of Sendoso 27:25

2M ago27:25

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Kris Rudeegraap's LinkedIn Kris Rudeegraap's X (Formerly Twitter) Kris Rudeegraap's Email: [email protected] Sendoso’s LinkedIn Sendoso's Website Sendoso's Case Studies Confessions of a B2B Entrepreneur is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so Check out our five most downloaded episodes: How To Start A Movement with David Heinemeier Hansson of…

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How to Prioritize Consistent Experimentation | Canberk Beker 28:25

2M ago28:25

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Canberk Beker, founder of ROASted, joins Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola for a discussion focused on the importance of consistent and ambitious experimentation. Canberk describes his shift from traditional B2C marketing to embracing experimental strategies, emphasizing the significance of pushing boundaries to foster growth. He shares is personal ex…

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Why You Should Appeal to Humanity In Ad Creative | Libby Schell 37:55

3M ago37:55

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Libby Schell, Refine Labs Demand Generation Manager, joins Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola for a discussion about leading with empathy and humanity in ad creative. Libby shares her unique path from a strategic communications graduate to a demand generation expert in the B2B SaaS domain. She focuses on how she has worked to balance creativity with ma…

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165: Combining Brand, Demand, and Performance for Business Impact (w/ Dots Oyebolu) 42:30

3M ago42:30

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Branding & Solopreneurship with Emily Dunlop of Good Marketing Club™ 30:33

3M ago30:33

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Emily Dunlop's LinkedIn Emily Dunlop's X (Formerly Twitter) The Good Marketing Club LinkedIn The Good Marketing Club Website Multiplier - Global EOR Company Website Do What You Love, Love What You Do by Holly Tucker Manifest: 7 Steps to Living Your Best Life by Roxie Nafousi Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel Good Life Newsletter by Emily Dunlop …

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RV239 - The Bootstrap Advantage (My CEO Consulting Call) 8:25

3M ago8:25

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In this unique episode, Chris shares the unfiltered audio from a consulting call with an entrepreneur. Chris offers advice from his personal experience building multiple businesses to 7 and 8 figures in revenue. Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode: Why raising VC money might be a sign that your business model needs rethinking The advantages of…

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Building an Organic Content & Thought Leadership Strategy | B2B Round Table 50:25

3M ago50:25

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Megan Bowen and Evan Hughes host Ashley Lewin and Steph Crugnola in a roundtable discussion of how to create a sustainable, unique content strategy. They cover: Building a unique point of view in content strategy is crucial for differentiation and capturing audience attention. Consistency in content distribution helps build trust and establishes th…

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How to Implement a Demand Creation Strategy | Sam Kuehnle 40:59

3M ago40:59

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Sam Kuehnle, VP of Marketing at Loxo, joins Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola for a discussion about taking on a leadership role in Demand Creation and how to make an impact. The discussion focuses on evolving demand generation strategies, the interplay between lead generation and demand creation, and how Sam transitioned from agency work at Refine La…

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RV238 - How To Outcompete $100M Giants (Live Fireside Chat) 52:24

3M ago52:24

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Today’s episode is a live fireside chat recorded at Warmly’s office, where Chris covers why smaller software companies can move faster than larger ones, what customers actually want versus what they say they need, and practical ways to measure what matters in marketing. Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode: Why smaller companies have distinct a…

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[Greatest Hits] How To Start A Movement with David Heinemeier Hansson of 37signals 39:57

3M ago39:57

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Follow David Heinemeier Hansson on LinkedIn Check out 37signals Check out Basecamp Check out HEY Confessions of a B2B Entrepreneur is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so Check out our five most downloaded episodes: How To Start A Movement with David Heinemeier Hansson of 37signals Chris Walker Rants On Dark Social, Creating Demand & Company…

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Why Leads Are Not All Created Equal | Ciara Hopkins 37:49

3M ago37:49

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Ciara Hopkins, VP of Demand Generation at Refine Labs, joins Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola for a discussion about leads: leads are not all created equal, and Ciara talks through why, and how to address it. Ciara starts by talking through her journey, starting as an SDR constantly questioning the ‘why’ behind instant calls and emails to new leads. …

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RV237 - Stop Overcomplicating Marketing Measurement | Go To Market Live Episode 44 51:37

3M ago51:37

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When Chris Walker looked at his bank account in 2019, he had $3,000 and student loan debt. In this week’s GTM Live episode, he shares an overview of the choices that led to building successful multi-million dollar companies over the next 6 years, and the personal cost of those decisions. He then spends the majority of the episode examining why B2B …

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4 Milestones to Hit Before Investing in Paid Advertising | Refine Labs B2B Roundtable 46:58

4M ago46:58

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Megan Bowen and Evan Hughes host Ciara Hopkins in a roundtable discussion of paid ads, nailing down when is the right time to start investing. They cover: Defining your ideal customer profile and target market Developing your strategic narrative Building a website that converts traffic into sales conversions Aligning Marketing and Sales In addition…

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