The Enneagram and Marriage Podcast, hosted by Christa Hardin, MA, is rooted in two decades of experience counseling and coaching couples. On top of her expert marriage advice, Christa uses the Enneagram to add another layer of understanding in how we work as individuals and gives us deeper insight into how we connect and shine together in marriage and relationships across the collective community.
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How Men Can Actually Open Up in Marriage with Couples Therapist Shane Birkel, Type 7
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59:00Communication in marriage breaks down when one partner can't open up - and often, it's the men who struggle most with vulnerability. In this practical, tool-filled conversation, Christa sits down with couples therapist Shane Birkel, a Type 7 and certified Relational Life Therapist who worked closely with Terry Real as his mentor. Shane is the host …
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Why You Can't Heal Anxious Attachment Alone (And What to Do Instead) w/ Jessica Baum, Type 4
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40:06What was wounded in relationship needs to heal in relationship. In this powerful conversation, Christa sits down with licensed psychotherapist and attachment expert Jessica Baum, author of the new book "Safe: An Attachment-Informed Guide to Building Secure Relationships," to explore why anxious attachment can't be healed in isolationm and what to d…
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You, Your Husband, and His Mother w/Dr. Tracy Dalgleish (3-9 pairing)
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48:03You don't just marry your spouse, you marry into their family. And if you've ever felt trapped in a toxic cycle with your mother-in-law or other family members, doomed to feel like either a victim or a villain no matter what you do, this episode is for you. Join Christa as she sits down with Type 3 clinical psychologist and couples therapist Dr. Tr…
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Spooky Season Special: Stranger Things w/Gen Alpha & Z Lucas Wilson & Jack Hardin (Melody Hardin and Abigail Perry)
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35:37Get ready for a 1980s blast from the past twist on The Enneagram and Marriage Podcast this spooky season! In this family-friendly special episode, Christa welcomes two very special guests making their podcast debut: her nephew Lucas Wilson and son Jack Hardin, representing Gen Alpha, along with Gen Z E+M Certified Coaches Melody Hardin, 9 and Gen X…
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Stopping the Lies You’re Believing About Yourself and Your Marriage w/Erica Ligenza Gwynn, Type 3
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45:05Join Christa and author Erica Liganza Gwynn (3-8 pairing) for an honest conversation about the lies we believe and how they affect us and our marriages. Erica, author of "That's Just Not True: How to Replace the Lies You Didn't Know You Believed with God's Unchanging Truth" (brand new release!) and host of the Thrive Podcast, shares practical wisdo…
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October Special: Enneagram & Mystery: A Cozy Mystery Conversation w/Author Sarah Skilton, 4 (4-6 Pairing)
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55:20In this October special, Christa sits down with Type 4 author Sarah Skilton (pen name Hadley Hartwell) to explore the intersection of the Enneagram and motives, namely using the Enneagram to solve a mystery. Sarah has been studying the Enneagram since 1998 and brings that depth and careful study to her debut novel "One Is the Deadliest Number," whi…
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Letting Go of Offense with Author Alexandra Hoover, Type 8 (8-8 Pairing)
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48:45Join Christa for a powerful conversation with author Alexandra Hudson about her new book "You Can Let Go: Make Peace with Your Past, Break Free from Offense, and Move Forward with God." Alexandra, an Enneagram 8, shares her journey of learning to release offense and bitterness, even when the hurt was real and justified. This deep conversation explo…
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How to Express Your Needs Without Starting a Fight w/Michelle Purta (2-5 Pairing)
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51:44Join Christa and marriage coach Michelle Purta for an essential conversation about nonviolent communication and rediscovering joy in marriage. Michelle, an Enneagram 2 married to a 5, shares her journey from relationships filled with more arguing than connecting to building the marriage she has today. She teaches the PEACE Method along with practic…
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New Heights in Love: What Taylor Swift Can Teach Us About Joy and Redemption in Relationships
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40:21Join Christa and Melody for a fun, insightful conversation about Taylor Swift's "The Life of a Showgirl" album and what it teaches us about celebrating joy in relationships. Inspired by Taylor's New Heights podcast appearance and her approach to happiness with cautious discretion, Christa and Melody go track-by-track through the album, exploring th…
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Managing Vulnerability Hangovers in Relationships: An E + M Mini
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29:57Ever share a vulnerable request with your spouse and get nothing back? Feel like you’re the only one initiating, planning, or keeping the spark alive? In this midweek mini, we explore the exhausting dynamic of “auditioning” in relationships - whether with partners, friends, or family. Learn how your Enneagram type and instinctual variant create dif…
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From Burnout to Freedom: Choosing Peace Over Performance w/Kelsey and Tom of The Whole of Us
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38:31Do you feel like this world is spinning out of control and taking your marriage and/or family with it? We've been talking about how to balance our family at a healthier pace lately on the pod and today we're so happy to have the highly influential couple, The Whole of Us, Kelsey and Tom Wauchope of Australia (1-4 pairing) help us process how to do …
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When AI Infiltrates Your Marriage with Amy Wicks, 7
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43:22What do you do when AI infiltrates your marriage? When you and your spouse are talking to ChatGPT more than each other, it becomes a problem, but that's not the only way tech is taking from our relationships. Find out how you have recover your relationships in the real world in this episode with Christa Hardin, as featured on Amy Wicks' Wholehearte…
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The Weekly Reset in Your Marriage w/Heather Brown, 3
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36:45Find Heather's website and all of her goodies and freebies here! https://www.mylifewellloved.com/ Find Heather's very popular Instagram here! Find Heather's podcast here! Watch on YouTube here! Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Leave Christa a podcast questio…
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AI, Tech, Smartphones, & Your Kids w/Hannah Hardin, Type 4
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20:28AI is novel and it seems to be here to stay, but what good (or bad) is it doing for your kids? We love tacking this topic with a research base, but we also want and need to drive forward with actual human connection. We get to do just that in this episode with Hannah Hardin, Type 4 today, as she discusses what it's like as a Gen Z tackling the issu…
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Using Tech Together to Foster Human Connection w/Aly Bullock of the #1 Paired App
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33:50Most couples are on their phones incessantly, with an average number of individuals touching their devices over 2500 times a day on average (Business Insider). We need to reduce this number, but also work with reality, and using the right kind of media can truly help, and in some instances, even deep in your connection if you’re truly thoughtful. T…
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Don’t Box Yourself In: Using the Enneagram Well in Your Marriage
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18:10Using the Enneagram in your marriage can be a beautiful tool for connection, but if we’re not mindful, it can also quietly create barriers, misunderstandings, or even resentment. In this midweek reset, Christa offers a heartfelt reminder to approach the Enneagram with wisdom, grace, and a deeper understanding of your spouse’s full humanity. Whether…
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AI and the Dangers of Losing of Human Connection w/Amy Wicks, Type 7
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37:48Today we talk about AI and the dangers of losing human connection with a dear colleague and friend, Amy Wicks (Simply Wholehearted outreach and podcast), who many of our listeners know as an Enneagram coach and is also an Enneagram & Marriage Certified Coach as well! We're starting a second AI conversation (listen to the first here) which will wil…
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The Stories We Tell About Each Other: Shaping Healthy Narratives in Marriage
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15:20Transform your marriage by understanding how the stories you tell about your partner's Enneagram type literally create your relationship reality. Marriage coach Christa dives deep into the psychology of narrative and reveals how negative internal stories become self-fulfilling prophecies that either invite growth or trigger defensiveness in your sp…
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Resting in Being Deeply Loved: How Empathy Transforms You w/Drs. Bill and Kristi Gaultiere, 1-2 Pairing
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41:37Bill and Kristi Gaultiere discovered that before they could truly empathize with each other in marriage, they first needed to experience God's deep empathy for them. In this conversation, the Type 1 and Type 2 couple share how understanding their different Enneagram approaches to apologies and empathy transformed their relationship. They discuss pr…
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From Criticism to Connection w/FamilyLife Today's Dave and Ann Wilson, 7-7 Pairing
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42:42Join us for a heartwarming conversation with Dave and Ann Wilson, the beloved husband-and-wife team behind FamilyLife Today and former co-founders of Kensington Church in Michigan. As two Enneagram 7s married for over 40 years (and former Detroit Lions chaplains!), they share the beautiful chaos and hard-won wisdom of building lasting love when you…
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Breaking the Cycle: How to Stop Protest Behaviors from Destroying Your Marriage
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29:48Learn how to break destructive protest behavior cycles before they destroy your marriage! In Part 2 of the protest behaviors series, marriage therapy expert Christa Hardin explores why these patterns escalate from mild criticism or withdrawal to explosive fights and emotional shutdown. Discover childhood origins of each Enneagram type's specific pr…
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The Hidden Drama: Why Protest Behaviors Sabotage Love
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13:10Uncover the hidden drama sabotaging marriages everywhere! Marriage coach Christa explores protest behaviors - the unconscious patterns where spouses criticize, withdraw, create drama, or become passive-aggressive instead of directly communicating their needs. Discover why your partner acts out instead of speaking up through specific protest behavio…
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From Dropout to Doctorate: A Marriage on a Mission w/Dr. Terence Lester and Cecilia Lester, 8-7 Pairing
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50:36Discover an extraordinary journey from gang violence and homelessness to a PhD and community leadership in today's pod! Dr. Terence Lester and his wife, Cecilia Lester share how he went from high school dropout living in his car to earning five degrees and becoming a powerful advocate for educational justice and how they, as a couple, have been hel…
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Creating Weekend Rhythms That Actually Restore You
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26:54Transform your weekends from exhausting catch-up time to genuine restoration! Marriage coach Christa explores how to create weekend rhythms that actually renew your energy, strengthen relationships, and feed your soul. Discover why constant stimulation prevents emotional processing and learn practical strategies for restorative movement , delicious…
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The 5-9 After Your 9-5: Creating Evening Routines That Actually Stick
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23:22Transform your evenings with sustainable routines inspired by Benjamin Franklin's daily reflection practice! Here in this fast-listen Fall opener, Christa shares her personal 5-9 routine and Reddit research on how people actually spend their after-work hours. Discover evening frameworks for Head, Heart, and Body types, plus the critical fitness rem…
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An E + M Vacation Special: The Great European Adventure Audio Diary
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1:19:22Join marriage coach Christa for a delightfully honest audio diary of her European family adventure! From London subway mishaps to finding her great-grandmother's mysterious grave on the Croatian island of Mali Lošinj, this episode captures the beautiful chaos of ambitious travel with heart and humor. Experience the highs and lows of trains through …
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What We Find in the Dark w/Aubrey Samson, 4: Finding God in the Midnight Hours of Our Lives
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38:42Navigate the midnight hours of life and faith with profound wisdom from author Aubrey Sampson, Enneagram 4 (4-7 pairing), as we discover what we actually find in spiritual darkness through Aubrey's soul-wrenching journey of losing her best friend Jen and encountering the "dark night of the soul." Learn why spiritual dryness isn't failure but invita…
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How Superhero Teams Shine Together: Jurassic, Fantastic 4, Cobra Kai & Superman Show Us The Glow
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44:05Discover your relationship's hidden superpowers through summer blockbuster wisdom! Christa (7) and Melody (9) explore how storylines and superhero teams demonstrate the best and worst of personality . Analyze the way the SP, SX, and SO instincts in Jurassic World Rebirth go right and wrong, Fantastic Four's perfect type diversity, and dive deep int…
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From Observation to Transformation: The Enneagram in the Natural World w. Dr. Angela Rosenberg, 2
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53:11Have you noticed humans learn better through story, metaphor, and the five senses than through thinking alone? Discover the fun of personality growth through the extraordinary lens of personality patterns we see mirrored in nature this late summer with Dr. Angela Rosenberg, Type 2, author of her book "Being on the Wing: Feathered Reflections on the…
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Sexual Integration: Accessing Your Intimate Superpower
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22:28Discover your intimate superpower through sexual integration! In this finale episode, marriage coach Christa reveals what healthy sexual expression looks like for each Enneagram type - from Type 1's relaxed presence finding perfection in imperfect moments to Type 8's gentle strength and vulnerable power. Learn how sexual integration isn't about bec…
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When Types Collide: Navigating Sexual Shadows and Growth
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21:37Navigate sexual challenges with compassion through understanding Enneagram shadows in intimacy! Marriage coach Christa explores how each type's protective patterns create predictable conflicts - from Type 1 perfectionism blocking pleasure to Type 8 intensity overwhelming partners to Type 9s disconnecting during intimate moments. Discover common typ…
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How to Map Your Spouse's Pleasure Languages & Sensory Preferences
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18:35Discover the secret pleasure languages that could revolutionize your intimate connection! In this episode of the summer sizzle series, marriage coach Christa reveals how each Enneagram type has a unique way of experiencing and expressing physical pleasure - from visual connection (Types 1,4,7) to touch-centered intimacy (Types 8,9,2) to auditory ap…
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Responsive Desires: How Each Type Receives Intimacy Invitations
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25:18Understanding how your partner receives intimate invitations is just as important as how they initiate them! Discover why response styles have everything to do with personality as you learn about the gentle approach types, those who need beautiful and unhurried environments, and those who just need to know you see them in their joyful enthusiasm. W…
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Discover why you and your partner seem to have completely different experiences during intimacy! In this revelatory episode, Christa explores how your Enneagram type determines whether you connect sexually through your body (Gut Types 8, 9, 1), emotions (Heart Types 2, 3, 4), or mind (Head Types 5, 6, 7). Through real couple stories like Sarah & Mi…
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Initiation Styles: How Each Type Starts the Dance of Sexual Intimacy in Marriage
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17:04Discover the secret language of sexual initiation in marriage through the Enneagram! In this groundbreaking episode, marriage coach Christa explores how each of the nine personality types initiates intimacy in completely different ways - and why misreading these signals creates disconnection in the bedroom. Learn about the three distinct initiation…
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The Pursuit of Happiness Together: Building Joy in Marriage
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21:35What if the secret to a happy marriage isn't finding the right person, but creating the right conditions for joy to flourish together? In this uplifting episode, discover why happiness in marriage is less about constant bliss and more about intentional practices that build lasting joy. Learn the difference between fleeting pleasure and sustainable …
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When Looking Within Becomes Problematic: Gazing at God w/Sharon Hodde Miller, Type 7 (7-3)
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38:00Tired of the mental exhaustion that comes from constantly wondering what others think of you? In this episode, bestselling author and pastor Sharon Hodde Miller, Enneagram 7 (7-3 pairing) reveals why examining our life without just gazing inward, but also up at God and outwardly to others can also help us to break free from the self-focused scripts…
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Breaking Chains: Independence from Old Marriage Patterns
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15:45Sometimes the most powerful chains in marriage are the ones we can't see. In this transformative episode, discover how to identify and break free from the four invisible patterns that keep couples stuck: the Scorekeeper Chain (mental tallies and resentment), the Mind-Reading Chain (expecting partners to anticipate needs), the Perfection Chain (redo…
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When Addiction Enters the Marriage: Jimmy & Irene Rollins (7-9) on Breaking Cycles & Finding Healing
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52:52In this powerful episode, former megachurch pastors Jimmy and Irene Rollins share their raw journey from a marriage that was "surviving, not thriving" to genuine transformation after addiction threatened everything they'd built. For fifteen years, the couple maintained a thriving public ministry while privately struggling—Irene battling alcohol add…
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What Tolkien's Middle Earth Teach Us About Relationships w/Phil Nation, 4, Thomas Nelson
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41:38What can hobbits, elves, and the wisdom of Middle-earth teach us about relationships? In this special conversation, Christa sits down with Philip Nation, publisher at Thomas Nelson and lifelong Tolkien enthusiast, to explore the profound relationship wisdom hidden within J.R.R. Tolkien's beloved stories. From the faithful friendship of Sam and Frod…
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Beyond Stereotypes: Understanding The Higher-Desire Wife w/Author & Speaker J. Parker
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47:24In today's episode, we challenge the common assumption that men always want more sex than women in marriage. Join us as we speak with J. Parker, author of "The Higher-Desire Wife," about the estimated 25% of marriages where wives have a higher sex drive at various seasons of marriage. We explore multiple causes of mismatched desire beyond stereotyp…
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Masculine Strength, Feminine Strength: What Your Personality Type Reveals About Both
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14:49Here in this E + M mini, Christa explores the concepts of masculinity and femininity, as well as the tendency of certain types to lean toward different qualities, and how understanding this can transform your marriage dynamics. Learn which qualities come naturally to your type, which ones you might need to develop, and how accessing both strength a…
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The Allender Center's Rachael Clinton Chen, 2: Hope and Healing for Couples After Spiritual Trauma
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47:41Join Christa for a crucial conversation with Rachel Clinton Chen, MDiv and faculty at The Allender Center, about spiritual abuse and its unique impact on marriages. Rachel brings both professional expertise and Type 2 heart-centered wisdom to this difficult but necessary topic. Discover how spiritual abuse differs from general church hurt, the spec…
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From The Chosen to Family Films: Nathan & D'Lytha Myers on Technology, Parenting, and Creative Collaboration, 4-5 Pairing
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43:07Join us for an inspiring conversation with filmmakers Nathan (Type 4) and D'Lytha (Type 5) Myers as they share their unique journey of marriage, parenting, and creating meaningful entertainment together. Nathan, known for his work on The Chosen and now running Grafted Studios, brings passionate creativity, while D'Lytha offers thoughtful wisdom. To…
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Tenth Avenue North’s Mike Donehey, Type 4: Bringing Light to Dark Seasons of Life
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44:37What does it mean to bring light to the darkest seasons of life and faith? In this deeply moving post-Father’s Day episode, Mike Donehey, lead singer of the reunited Tenth Avenue North, shares the heart behind their new album “Learning to Trust.” As a social Type 4 married to a Type 2, Mike demonstrates the courage to go to those dark feelings, sit…
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When Emotions Are High: How to Self-Soothe in Relationships
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14:42When emotions run high in relationships, knowing how to self-soothe can make the difference between connection and disconnection. In this practical mini-episode, we explore a few way each instinctual variant, Self-Preservation, Social, and Sexual/One-to-One, approaches calming when feelings are intense. We also break down a bit further to designate…
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Stories In Our Struggles: Terry Real's RLT Approach to Conflict with Zach Brittle, 8 (8-2 Pairing)
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57:06What if the key to a stronger marriage isn't avoiding conflict, but learning to dig in and work through difficult moments? In this practical episode, marriage therapist and relational life therapist Zach Brittle, 8 brings over a decade of professional wisdom combined with personal insights from his Type 8-Type 2 marriage. Host of the popular Marria…
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The Unfiltered Truth About Aging and Advocacy with Kathleen Henderson, 8 -9 pairing
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54:20What does it mean to age with strength and wisdom? In this powerful episode, Kathleen Henderson, 8 (8-9 pairing) shares her honest journey and OR nursing background to help others through health challenges, empowering you to use your voice and your spouse through the seasons through health challenges and through the evolution of marriage in later s…
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The Beautiful Home Reset: Refining Your Spaces Together w/Whitney English, 4
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54:05As we step into a summer of refinement here at Enneagram and Marriage, what better time to focus on creating homes that truly work for our families? In this insightful episode, interior design and home organization expert and author Whitney English, Type 4 (4-9 pairing), shares her room-by-room approach to creating spaces that are both beautiful an…
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AI in Your Marriage: For Better or for Worse
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28:02Is artificial intelligence becoming the third party in your marriage? In this timely episode, we explore the growing trend of couples turning to AI for relationship advice, planning, and emotional processing. Based on survey data from real couples, Christa unpacks three major benefits AI brings to marriage—from vacation planning to communication to…
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