Our lane is multifamily tech, how it influences property management companies and ultimately renters' experience finding their next home. To be clear, we’ll stay in our lane. In this podcast, we are privileged to sit down with some of the best minds in multifamily, learn directly from them, and share what we learned with you. We’re here to have honest conversations with the leaders of this industry and the tech that defines it. Tune in to learn about what could be better, and the solutions t ...
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Multifamily Unpacked Podcasts
The Coffee & Cap Rates Podcast delivers the latest insights on New York City’s commercial real estate market. Hosted by Ariel Property Advisors, it offers expert analysis, market trends, and timely conversations with industry leaders.
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This podcast series discusses a multitude of topics from personal development to growing and working together as a couple. Gino and Julia Barbaro have been married for over twenty years and have six children. Gino works in multifamily real estate and education and Julia is a life coach. In this podcast, they discuss how they balance their entrepreneurial and real estate journey while raising their kids. They interview guests from many different backgrounds and unpack how they work together a ...
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Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking. Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants. Questions or comments? Please contact us at [email protected].
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Welcome to the Real Estate Growth and Management Show, where we explore the latest trends, strategies, and insights to help you unlock the full potential of your rental property portfolio. From uncovering the hottest real estate markets and dissecting investment opportunities to demystifying property management and sharing pro tips for tenant relations, Real Estate Growth & Management has you covered. Brought to you by Idoni Property Management.
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Clay Bavor — Sierra — Future of agentic AI
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28:18Recorded live at Forum, this episode features a rare conversation with one of tech’s most influential minds: Clay Bavor, former head of Google Labs and now co-founder of Sierra. Clay joins Funnel CEO Tyler Christiansen to talk about the future of agentic AI—intelligent systems that don’t just respond, but act. Together, they unpack why this moment …
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On this episode, Julia and Gino interview Frank McKinney. Frank is a true modern-day Renaissance man who has pushed the limits of success in his every endeavor. His early years were not very promising: upon attending his 4th high school in 4 years (he was asked to leave the first 3), he earned his high school diploma with a 1.8 GPA. So, with $50 in…
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358. Beige Book Insights, CMBS Lending Leaders, Data Center Risks, Walmart’s AI Move & NYC’s Office Comeback
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49:13In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we unpack the ripple effects of the government shutdown and discuss how the Beige Book has gained importance amid the economic data drought. We highlight Trepp’s projection of over $123 billion in private-label CMBS issuance for 2025 and preview our September CMBS Special Servicing report, where the …
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Stop Procrastinating: Estate Planning is NOT About Money, It's About Your Legacy & Family Peace 🕊️
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39:12We expose the real reason most people avoid planning: fear and avoidance, often rooted in money archetypes (like the "Tyrant" or "Innocent"). You'll hear a powerful story about waiting too long and why the solution isn't just a legal document, but a proactive roadmap of overlooked details—like account locations, passwords, and insurance policies—th…
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Find Your Greatest Gift W/ Philip & Pauline McKernan
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45:33On this episode, Julia and Gino interview Philip and Pauline McKernan. Philip is an inspirational speaker, writer and filmmaker. He works with entrepreneurs and business leaders all over the world. When people are seeking clarity about their future or want to move through roadblocks, seen and unseen, they call Philip. As a speaker, he has inspired …
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357. Shutdown? Maybe in DC… CMBS Issuance Surges, Bank Consolidation, Office Recapitalization
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46:38In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down the U.S. government still being shut down and what it means for economic data releases being paused the longer it drags on. We unpack the September Fed meeting minutes, which revealed a split among policymakers following last month’s 25-basis-point rate cut. We dive into Q3 CMBS issuanc…
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Matt Slepin — Building careers and communities in real estate
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47:56In this episode of Multifamily Unpacked, we sit down with one of the industry's most thoughtful observers and storytellers: Matt Slepin. As a longtime executive recruiter, former lobbyist, and host of the "Leading Voices in Real Estate" podcast, Matt has had a front-row seat to the evolution of multifamily real estate over the past four decades. Ty…
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On this episode, Julia and Gino Barbaro interview Dr. Travis Corcoran. Dr. Travis is an author, philosopher and liberal arts enthusiast helping people pursue a self-taught education in critical thinking using the ancient philosophy of the Trivium. His latest book demonstrates examples that can improve at least four areas of your life by applying th…
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356. What This Week Means for CRE: Government Shutdown, AI’s Impact on Employees, CMBS Delinquency Rate Pulls Back, Bank Data Insights & More
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51:46In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we analyze what recent developments mean for commercial real estate (CRE), starting with the U.S. government shutdown. We explore its potential economic impact, how long it could last, and what historical shutdowns suggest for CRE. We continue the ongoing conversation about AI, including Accenture la…
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Forum highlight — Employee experience with the new operating model
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9:57Turnover is a sticking point in multifamily. But what if a new operating model could actually solve for that? In this Forum highlight, Ginny Decker (SVP of Operations, Monument) and Jayde Kelley (Director of Innovation, RedPeak) sit down with Funnel’s Sarah Bozarth to talk about how centralized operations are giving teams more clarity, more support…
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115. Midtown South Rezoning & the Future of the Garment District featuring Barbara Blair & Howard Raber
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19:51In this podcast, Shimon Shkury, President and Founder of Ariel Property Advisors, and his guests Barbara Blair, President of the Garment District Alliance, and Howard Raber, a Director in Investment Sales at Ariel, unpack the recently approved Midtown South Mixed-Use (MSMX) Plan, which replaces outdated manufacturing zoning with residential use. Th…
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The 5 Apology Languages w/ Dr Jennifer Thomas
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42:31Dr. Jennifer M. Thomas is a TEDx speaker and the co-author, along with Dr. Gary Chapman (who wrote The Five Love Languages) of The 5 Apology Languages and Making Things Right at Work. She consults with companies on leadership and trust issues. Jennifer is an expert speaker on The 5 Love Languages and the 5 Apology Languages. She offers remote indiv…
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355. The Markets Keep Moving: Office Bright Spots, Compass’ $1.6B Merger Reshapes Resi, Recapture Explained, & Trepp Trading Alerts
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53:11Is office a good investment alternative? In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break it down, spotlighting growing demand for high-end CBD space even amid ongoing distress. We dive into Compass’ $1.6 billion acquisition of Anywhere and its potential impact on the broader residential brokerage landscape, along with August’s new home sa…
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354. Behind the Debt Yield Metric in Commercial Real Estate with John Barkidjija of Byline Bank
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44:03In this special episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we’re joined by John Barkidjija, Executive Vice President and Head of Commercial Real Estate (CRE) and Specialty Finance at Byline Bank. Better known to our listeners as Dr. Debt Yield, John shares why the debt yield metric remains a cornerstone in CRE and reflects on the moment it became his prefer…
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Jay Parsons — Multifamily economics beyond the rate cut
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40:07Rate cuts grabbed the headlines, but they aren’t the whole story. In this episode, Tyler Christiansen, CEO, Funnel sits down with economist Jay Parsons—also the host of The Rent Roll with Jay Parsons podcast—to dig into what really drives multifamily performance right now, and what managers and operators should watch. They cover: — Why a 25 bp cut …
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Innovation Games w/ Luke Hohman | Julia and Gino Podcast
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39:45Luke Hohmann is the Founder and CEO of Conteneo, Inc. (formerly, The Innovation Games® Company). He is also the co-founder of Every Voice Engaged Foundation, a 501 3(c) nonprofit that that helps citizens, governments and nonprofit organizations collaboratively solve problems that are unsolvable without civic engagement. Key Insights 00:00 Introduct…
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353. From Dot Plot to Deal Flow: Unpacking the Fed's Cut, Retail Data Stays Strong, Paramount’s $1.6B Play, Special Servicing Rates Fall
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51:27In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we analyze the Federal Reserve's recent rate cut and the impact on the commercial real estate (CRE) capital markets. We revisit the movement of the Secured Overnight Financing Rate (SOFR) and credit spreads leading up to the decision. We also unpack the stronger-than-expected retail sales data for Au…
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From Bed Rest to Bestseller: The Unfiltered Journey of a Mom of Six
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30:00Key Takeaways- ✅ The Power of Journaling: When high-risk pregnancies forced Fran onto bed rest, journaling became her primary coping mechanism. By writing down her fears, hopes, and observations, she unknowingly created the foundation for her book and found a way to process her experiences. ✅ Embracing a New Identity: Motherhood requires a grieving…
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Inside the Funnel — Beyond the lease with Jack Banask
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20:57In this episode of Inside the Funnel, we sit down with Jack Banask, Funnel’s Senior Director of Strategy and Operations. Jack’s role bridges product vision and operational reality, working closely with operators to simplify the most complex parts of the renter journey, from application through mid-lease. We explore how the resident experience is be…
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114. Brooklyn CRE 2025: Small Buildings, Big Deals featuring Sean R. Kelly, Esq. & Stephen Vorvolakos
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8:24Join Shimon Shkury, President and Founder of Ariel Property Advisors, Partner Sean R. Kelly, Esq., and Director Stephen Vorvolakos, for an in-depth discussion of the state of Brooklyn's commercial real estate market. They analyze the market's robust performance, including $3.25 billion in total investment sales in 1H 2025, trends shaping investment…
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People see the world as they are, not as it is. If you can change, you can see the world through different lens. However it is a challenge to work on oneself. If you can do that you will be able to grow and see the world with different light. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 02:05 Do not use love languages as weapon 07:07 Knowing and realizing our own …
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352. Nearly 1M Jobs Vanish, Industrial Demand Cools, Return-to-Office Mandates, D.C.'s Office-to-Resi Tax Incentives, & More
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48:27In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we unpack major labor market revisions, revealing that job growth was overstated by 911,000 jobs over the past year. We analyze recent data that strengthens the case for a 25-basis-point rate cut at the upcoming Fed meeting. We also dive into Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s op-ed, which critiques …
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The Importance of Wills and Trusts-Don't Make This Mistake: Why 70% of Americans Are Unprepared
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30:00Key Takeaways- ✔️ The Problem with Procrastination: People often spend more time worrying about making a will than it actually takes to create one. ✔️ The Government's Plan: Without a will or trust, the state decides who gets your assets and who cares for your children. ✔️ Wills vs. Trusts: A will provides the court with instructions, while a trust…
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Jessica Beck — The people-first path to property management 3.0
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39:05Tyler Christiansen, Funnel’s CEO and host of Multifamily Unpacked, sits down with Jessica Beck, CEO of Alfred and leader of RKW Residential, and their most recent acquisition, Quarterra. Beck’s path is anything but typical. She started in consumer tech, made her way into multifamily through what was originally a services business, and now is operat…
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351. CMBS Loan Workouts Unfiltered with Shlomo Chopp
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45:33In this special episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we’re joined again by Shlomo Chopp, Managing Partner of Case Equity Partners, to discuss commercial mortgage-backed security (CMBS) loan workouts and distressed property situations. Shlomo offers a deep dive into his firm’s strategic approach to navigating complex loan restructurings and asset manag…
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113. Inside the Bronx CRE Market: $1.07B and Growing featuring Jason M. Gold & Daniel Mahfar
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7:36In this episode of Coffee & Cap Rates, Shimon Shkury, President and Founder of Ariel Property Advisors, discusses Ariel’s Bronx 2025 Mid-Year Commercial Real Estate Trends report with the Bronx market experts Senior Director Jason Gold and Director Daniel Mahfar. Key findings include: The Bronx investment sales market experienced a significant reco…
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Create a New Mindset for a Better Future w/ Matt & Erin Ingold
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46:54Mindset transforms when we pay attention and pay attention to our thought process. It is about being aware of our thoughts that are either making us a hero or a villain of our own story. On this episode, Julia and Gino interview Matt and Erin Ingold. They dive deep into topics that relate to mindset transformation and tools such as journaling and r…
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350. CRE's Yield Curve Conundrum, Residential Reality Check, Bank Transparency on Trial & Office Bright Spots
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47:53In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we assess the current state of the market, explore the commercial real estate (CRE) yield curve, and check in on residential mortgage rate trends. We unpack recent changes to bank reporting rules that could make it easier for banks to hide troubled loans and conceal signs of distress in their lending…
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On this episode of Multifamily Unpacked, Alex Howe, SVP Marketing and Growth at Funnel, and Tyler Christiansen, CEO at Funnel, break down the trends reshaping the industry. Forum registration is OPEN! Acquisitions are back. Cortland, Morgan, Opiniion with RentGrata and RealPage to name a few. Data blind spots: Conflicting public vs. private data on…
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112. What’s Driving Manhattan’s $7B CRE Market? featuring Michael A. Tortorici, Christoffer Brodhead, & Howard Raber
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11:41Shimon Shkury, President and Founder of Ariel Property Advisors, Mike Tortorici, Founding Partner, Chris Brodhead, Senior Director, and Howard Raber, Director, unpack the findings of Ariel's Manhattan 2025 Mid- Year Commercial Real Estate Trends report. They discussed Manhattan's strong real estate performance in the first half of the year, with ne…
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Saving The Family w/ Father Leo Patalinghug
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31:46On this episode, Julia and Gino interview Father Leo Patalinghug. Born in the Philippines and raised in the Baltimore area, Fr. Leo actually developed his love for cooking while attending the seminary at the North American College in Rome. There, he became friendly with several Italian restaurant owners and would often invite them back to the stude…
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349. Economic Resilience vs. Headlines: Tale of Two Consumers, Record Office CMBS Delinquency, & Multifamily & Office Inflection Point?
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48:34In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we discuss retail earnings revealing a bifurcated consumer with value players like Five Below and Walmart raising guidance while restaurants struggle, and examine resilient GDP growth despite declining consumer confidence. We dive into our latest CMBS delinquency data, showing office hitting another …
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The Unfiltered Truth: Raising Kids, Blended Families, and The Power of Vulnerability
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37:18Key Takeaways- ✅ Vulnerability is a Strength: Mark shares how his willingness to be vulnerable and apologize for his mistakes as a father was the key to rebuilding a strong relationship with his children, proving that true strength lies in humility and emotional honesty. ✅ Behavior Over Time Equals Trust: The Tim family uses this powerful equation …
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111. NYC CRE Multifamily Trends: Affordable & Rent-Stabilized Assets in Focus featuring Victor Sozio & Matthew Dzbanek
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11:04In this episode, Shimon Shkury, President and Founder of Ariel Property Advisors, reviews the latest trends in New York City’s multifamily market with Victor Sozio, Ariel Founding Partner, and Matthew Dzbanek, Senior Director in Capital Services. They discuss financing options and highlight findings from Ariel’s Q2 2025 Multifamily Quarter in Revie…
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This week, Julia and Gino talk with Adam Mitchell. Adam is dad to four kids. He has been teaching families the skills of personal protection for over 20 years at his school in New York. In 2006, he recognized a specific need that most men yearned for as Dads, but didn’t have the access or understanding to the type of training they needed to truly k…
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348. Office Origination, Stagflation, Job Data Misinformation & Retail Earnings Fluctuation
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49:17In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we dive into growing economic concerns, from stagflation risks and the ongoing market uncertainty related to tariffs and Federal Reserve policy. We discuss the quality of the monthly jobs data to forecast future demand, and break down the latest retail sales data and performance, highlighting mixed e…
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Jason Terry — Leading with care in centralized student housing
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39:28In this episode, Tyler Christiansen, Funnel CEO, sits down with Jason Terry from Redstone Residential—and a standout speaker from last year’s Funnel Forum panel on centralization. Jason brings a rare mix of operational insight and higher-ed heart. He talks about leadership, leasing velocity, and why building centralized teams starts with empathy—no…
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347. When Tides Pull Back: Finding CRE Opportunities in Supply-Demand Imbalances with Samir Tejpaul, Madison Realty Capital
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44:23In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by Samir Tejpaul, Managing Director and Head of Capital Markets at Madison Realty Capital. Samir draws parallels between today's market and 2011 when he started his career and shares why he's bullish on 2026. He also explains Madison's approach to analyzing supply and demand imba…
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110. Investing Through Change in NYC CRE | Coffee & Cap Rates Panel (July 2025)
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43:52Ariel Property Advisors hosted its summer Coffee and Cap Rates event on July 30th, sharing the latest trends in New York City’s investment sales market. Over 250 NYC real estate professionals gathered for this live networking breakfast at TD Bank’s conference center at One Vanderbilt. The theme of the event was “Investing Through Change.” Ralph Bum…
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346. Back to School, Back to the Office, & Back to the (Quantum) Future of CRE
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50:08In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we examine the Fed's challenging position amid mounting political pressure and July's noisy CPI print. We analyze CBRE's exclusive survey showing companies making unprecedented progress in getting employees back to the office, with enforcement and monitoring dramatically increasing. We dive deep into…
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What Your Kids REALLY Want (It's Not More Money)
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39:30Paul shares why money is like gasoline—it can fuel your dreams or cause an inferno. We explore how money reveals your character, and why finding a sense of "enough" is key to a happy and fulfilled life. This conversation isn't just about financial lessons; it's about the legacy we're building at home. Learn why your presence and time are the most v…
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The Maker Versus The Takers w/ Jerry Bowyer
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44:12About Jake & Gino Jake & Gino are multifamily investors, operators, and mentors who have created a vertically integrated real estate company that controls over $225,000,000 in assets under management. They have created the Jake & Gino community to teach others their three-step framework: Buy Right, Finance Right and Manage Right®, and to become mul…
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109. NYC’s Investment Sales Market Overview by Shimon Shkury | Coffee & Cap Rates July 2025
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18:03Ariel Property Advisors hosted its summer Coffee and Cap Rates event on July 30th, sharing the latest trends in New York City’s investment sales market. Over 250 NYC real estate professionals gathered for this live networking breakfast at TD Bank’s conference center at One Vanderbilt. The theme of the event was “Investing Through Change.” Shimon Sh…
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How To Create a Positive Family Culture | The Importance of Continuing Family Traditions
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11:37Gino shares how we should have the vision for our family to look like in the future and how we can work towards it through the old family traditions as well as by bringing up the new ones. Key Insights: 00:00 Introduction: What are your family traditions? 02:08 Most effective way to have quality time with your family 06:23 Life is all about creatin…
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345. Appraisal Sector Shakeup, Lodging Capex Crunch, Multifamily Planned Liquidation & Expansion to Industrial
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53:53In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we examine weak labor data and mixed economic signals that are fueling Fed rate cut expectations while recession probabilities remain relatively contained. We analyze the crisis at the federal appraisal regulator and explore demographic challenges in the appraisal industry. We dive deep into lodging …
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Key Insights: 00:00 Introduction 04:15 Its easy to fall into victimhood but trusting God and surrendering can bring the breakthrough 10:12 Awakening the passion for prayer 15:02 Saving the marriage 20:10 Judy’s plans for the future 27:03 Bonus resources with Judy’s book To know more about the Judy’s initiatives visit https://judydunagan.com/ To che…
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344. CRE Maturity Drag, Fed Holds Rates, Tariff Deadlines, Bank Earnings & Executive Commentary
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50:23In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down the Fed’s decision to keep rates steady and provide our thoughts on whether there will be a rate cut in September. We discuss Friday’s tariff deadline, negotiations that are still pending, and the implications on the economy. In other parts of the market, we analyze recent bank earnings…
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The Monk, the Money, and Your Monsters: Unpacking Your Financial Psychology
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42:16In this powerful episode, Doug shares his deeply personal story of growing up in a family where money was "weaponized," leading to his own money-avoidant behaviors, and how he inadvertently stumbled into finance by pulling his monastery out of bankruptcy. We dive into why talking about money is often harder than talking about sex, exploring the sha…
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Forum highlight — Generative AI: What’s next for multifamily?
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12:13This episode features a standout panel discussion from Forum 2025 on the role of generative AI in multifamily. You’ll hear from: — Kelly Kutach, CMO, BH — Ian Andrews, SVP of Innovation and Data Analytics, Avanti Residential — Sarah Allwardt, Director of Marketing and Resident Experience, Kane Realty Corporation Moderated by Cameron Skaff, Senior D…
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Secrets Of Brilliant Mompreneurs w/ Lani Jackson
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33:45Key Insights: 00:00 Introduction 03:11 Idea and the need to create DealGen’ 08:30 Shiny object syndrome and long-term thinking 13:51 Inflection point – a pivotal moment for Brian 20:48 Brian’s financial results in 2019 23:58 Cleaning up the business to present in a clear and concise way in order to get the deal done 26:36 Companies like Fast Signs …
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