Successful products don’t happen in a vacuum. Hosted by Hannah Clark, Editor of The Product Manager, this show takes a 360º view of product through the perspectives of those in the inner circle, outer perimeter, and fringes of the product management process. If you manage, design, develop, or market products, expect candid and actionable insights that can guide you through every stage of the product life cycle.
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Why It’s So Hard to Adopt New Skills (with Maxine Anderson, Co-Founder & CPO at Arist)
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28:00Every product manager obsesses over leadership styles, onboarding flows, and GTM strategies—but what if the biggest differentiator of success comes down to something much simpler? Learning. In this episode, Hannah Clark sits down with Maxine Anderson, Co-Founder and CPO of Arist, a text-based learning platform that flips traditional corporate educa…
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How American Express 4x Its Experimentation Velocity in 1 Year (with Jean Castanon, VP of Digital Product at American Express)
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19:22Every product leader wrestles with the same tradeoff: move fast and risk breaking things, or move slow and risk irrelevance. But what if the real accelerator wasn’t cutting corners—it was systematizing experimentation? In this episode, Hannah Clark sits down with Jean Castanon, VP of Digital Product at American Express, to explore how his team quad…
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How to Navigate “Growing Pains” in Scaling Orgs (with Matthew Wensing, Head of Product and Design at Customer.io)
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45:59Startups don’t get easier with age—they just get more complex. Much like teenagers, scale-ups are constantly outgrowing their structures, still figuring out their identity, and not always great at setting realistic goals. But this awkward “in-between” stage isn’t a failure—it’s a rite of passage on the path to becoming a mature company. In this epi…
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How to Balance Speed and Value: The Essential Role of Empathy in the AI Product Era (with Megan O'Rourke, Executive Director of Product at Metalab)
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41:44The Tin Man’s silk heart in The Wizard of Oz is a perfect metaphor for AI right now—it can convincingly mimic empathy, but it’s not the real thing. In this episode, Hannah Clark sits down with Megan O’Rourke, Executive Director of Product at Metalab, to explore the delicate balance between AI-powered productivity and human-driven resonance. They di…
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How to Adapt to the New Gold Standard in Product Management (with Maryam Ashoori, VP of Product and Engineering at IBM Watsonx)
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29:22Product management isn’t just evolving—it’s getting completely rewritten. In this episode, Hannah sits down with Dr. Maryam Ashoori, VP of Product and Engineering at IBM Watsonx, to talk about how AI is reshaping not only the tools product managers use, but the very nature of the role itself. Maryam brings two decades of experience in AI across des…
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How I Survived the Past 3 Years in Product Leadership (with Michael Luchen, Product Transformation Architect)
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29:09When AI was just a sci-fi footnote and “product transformation” sounded like a buzzword, Michael Luchen was already in the trenches. In this episode, Hannah sits down with the original host of The Product Manager Podcast to unpack three years of change—from his early missteps to building scalable systems and navigating the AI tidal wave with nuance…
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Vibe Coding 101: A Zero-to-One Hands-On Workshop (with Drew Falkman, Principal at Moves The Needle Studio)
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20:07If you’ve heard the buzz about Vibe Coding but aren’t quite sure what’s real and what’s hype, this episode is your shortcut to clarity. Recorded live at our hands-on Vibe Coding Workshop, this 30-minute seminar with Drew Falkman (Principal at Moves The Needle) unpacks what Vibe Coding actually is, where it fits in the product lifecycle, and how non…
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How to Turn Neurodivergent 'Challenges' Into Leadership Superpowers (with Frankie Berkoben)
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48:30ADHD might be the product trait nobody’s putting on their resume—but maybe they should. In this episode, Hannah sits down with executive coach Frankie Berkoben to unpack the complex intersection of ADHD, executive function, and product leadership. Together, they explore how ADHD traits like systems thinking, emotional intelligence, and comfort with…
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Finding Your Unfair Advantage in Product’s Wild West Era (with Margaret-Ann Seger, Head of Product at Statsig)
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26:08Product-market fit isn’t enough anymore. In an age where AI is making it easier for anyone to ship a half-decent product, the real battleground is distribution. Margaret-Ann Seger (Head of Product at Statsig) joins Hannah Clark to talk about how AI is reshaping go-to-market strategy, why speed and feedback loops are becoming product differentiators…
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The Systems Thinking Process Used by the Most Adaptable Product Leaders (with Sheryl Cababa, Author of Closing the Loop)
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42:53What if instead of racing to solve problems, you paused to map the entire system first? In this episode, Hannah sits down with Sheryl Cababa—author of Closing the Loop: Systems Thinking for Designers and founder of Optimistic Design—to talk about what it really means to design for complexity. From AI adoption to organizational policy changes, Shery…
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What Does Engineering Excellence Look Like in the Age of AI? (with Anish Dhar, Co-founder and CEO of Cortex.io)
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29:12The “AI is coming for your job” headlines have been exhausting—especially if you're a software engineer. But as Cortex.io founder Anish Dhar explains, engineering isn’t dying; it's evolving. In this episode, Hannah sits down with Anish to unpack what engineering excellence actually means in 2025, why measuring developer productivity is still wildly…
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How to Make Passion Your Differentiator in an AI-Driven World (with Norma Løvhaugen, VP Strategy at Neat)
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38:39What does passion really look like on a product team? In this episode, Hannah sits down with Norma Løvhaugen, VP Strategy at Neat, to unpack how passion fuels team collaboration, customer empathy, and a culture of innovation. They explore the difference between building products with passion versus simply shipping features—and why that distinction …
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Mastercard’s SVP of Global Products on How to Enter New Markets (with Simone Paul Tamussin)
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24:49Expanding internationally is more complex than ever, with economic uncertainty, shifting regulations, and unpredictable tariffs creating constant challenges. While overseas opportunities can be tempting, businesses must navigate a landscape full of blind spots and evolving risks that demand careful planning and adaptability. Simone Tamussin, SVP of…
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Managing Stakeholder Perception: How Product Leaders Build—and Lose—Influence (with Carolyn Dolezal & Kate Leto)
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35:18Two seasoned executive coaches, Carolyn Dolezal and Kate Leto, share candid insights on the realities of executive leadership and how to truly earn the trust and confidence of your team and stakeholders. They debunk common myths and explore how personal agendas can undermine leadership effectiveness, while offering practical advice for building inf…
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How Parenting Made Me a Better Product Leader (with Anuj Jhunjhunwala, Director of Product at Merge)
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32:08Becoming a parent profoundly changes how you approach product leadership, blending personal and professional challenges in unexpected ways. Anuj Jhunjhunwala, Director of Product at Merge, shares how parenting teaches lessons in influence without authority, clear communication, and time management that directly apply to leading products. Anuj offer…
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The AI-Enhanced Team: A New Playbook for Product Leaders (with Andrew Saxe, VP of Product at Smartling)
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27:10As we navigate the AI revolution, we’re collectively creating a new reality that’s far from utopian, and both leaders and individual contributors are struggling to find their way through the uncertainty. Questions around workplace ethics, output quality, and long-term impacts are top of mind for many, but this presents an opportunity to learn from …
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How to Be ‘Limitless’: The Mindset Shift That Opens Doors (with Uma Subramanian, Founder of Limitless Leaders)
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32:46What's holding you back from reaching your next level? For many, the biggest obstacle is often a mental one, not a physical one. By shifting your perspective and zooming out, you can find pathways around the challenges that seem insurmountable. Uma Subramanian, founder of Limitless Leaders and former Microsoft leader, shares her journey of achievin…
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How to Use AI to Research Like a Researcher (with Cori Widen, User Research Lead at Photoroom)
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23:59Research has often suffered from shortcuts, assumptions, and poorly conducted user interviews, long before AI entered the picture. While there are concerns about AI exacerbating these issues, today we’re exploring how AI can actually improve research practices by standardizing and democratizing good research at scale. Cori Widen, User Research Lead…
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The Nuances of Product Leadership No One Talks About (with Debbie McMahon, CPO at The Financial Times)
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32:32A seedling and a tree may share the same DNA, but their roles in the ecosystem are vastly different—just like junior and executive product leaders. As leaders climb the ranks, their focus shifts from producing features to providing structure and support that allow teams to thrive. Debbie McMahon, Chief Product Officer at the Financial Times, reflec…
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Zoom's CPO on Evolving Product Strategy in a Post-Pandemic Market (with Smita Hashim)
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21:51Zoom’s journey from a popular video conferencing tool to a household name during the COVID-19 pandemic was followed by a wave of competition. But rather than being overwhelmed, Zoom has embraced new opportunities for innovation, especially with the rise of AI. Smita Hashim, Zoom's Chief Product Officer, shares insights into the company's response t…
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Do All Roads Lead to the Feature Factory? (with Aakash Gupta, Andrea Saez, and Pawel Huryn)
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42:33In this episode, we dive into the phenomenon of the "feature factory," where companies focus more on releasing products and features rapidly rather than prioritizing quality or user needs. John Cutler coined the term, and it perfectly captures the feeling many teams face: launching features without a clear understanding of who they’re for or how th…
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How to Break Into Product Management in 2025 (with Mariana Antaya, Product Manager at Microsoft)
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20:47In this episode, we catch up with Mariana Antaya, Product Manager at Microsoft, who first joined the show in February 2024. Since then, AI has gone mainstream, the tech job market has shifted, and her career has evolved significantly. Last time, Mariana shared practical advice for aspiring PMs, which became our most downloaded episode ever, and now…
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The Enterprise CPO’s Guide for Winning at AI (with Randhir Vieira, Chief Product Officer at Omada Health)
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23:34Navigating AI disruption is like steering a ship—startups move like speedboats, while enterprises must turn the equivalent of a cruise liner. In this episode, host Hannah Clark speaks with Randhir Vieira, Chief Product Officer at Omada Health, about how established companies can adapt to AI-driven change despite their size and complexity. With over…
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How to Choose Tools Your Product Team Will Actually Use (with Moshe Mikanovsky)
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21:08How many logins do you use at work each week? If you’re not sure, you’re not alone. A 2024 report found that the average employee uses 36 cloud-based services daily—engineering teams use twice as many! Yet, over half of SaaS licenses go unused, wasting valuable resources. In this episode, host Hannah Clark sits down with Moshe Mikanovsky, founder o…
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How Did This CPO Pull Off 350% Growth in Two Years?! (with Benjamin Berry)
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27:52Every career path comes with its own set of challenges—you just have to choose your hard. Leading product at a startup, finding product-market fit, and scaling a company is tough, but so is staying stuck in a feature factory. In this episode, host Hannah Clark sits down with Benjamin Berry, CPO of EvolutionIQ, to discuss how he navigated these chal…
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Product Leaders Share Their Team Priorities for 2025 (with Melika Hope and Ken Romano)
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45:03The product industry is constantly evolving, and navigating silos—both across departments and between leadership levels—can make career growth feel like a challenge. Without alignment, collaboration suffers, progress stalls, and figuring out how to advance becomes even harder. In this special panel episode, host Hannah Clark is joined by Melika Hop…
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The New Exec Playbook: Your Most Important First Moves in Your First Executive Role (with Yue Zhao)
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33:31Starting a new job is tough—but stepping into an executive role is a whole different challenge. With high stakes, unrealistic expectations, and all eyes on you, how do you navigate this transition successfully? In this episode, Hannah talks with Yue Zhao, executive coach and founder of The Uncommon Executive, about the realities of executive life, …
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Lessons from the Dot-Com Bubble: How Product Leaders Should Think About AI (with Greg Petroff)
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31:29The times are changing, and AI is driving a major shift in how we approach product and leadership. It’s exciting, unpredictable, and inevitable—but how do we navigate this change? Hannah Clark sits down with Greg Petroff, a design thought leader and seasoned executive, to discuss the tools, organizational shifts, and strategies that leaders need to…
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How to Use UX Research to Delight Your Users (with Laura Klein, Steve Portigal, and Thomas Stokes)
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45:26Not to get all "check your privileges" on you, but if your organization has an in-house research team, or works with a research firm, or even has just one UXR on staff, you gotta count yourself lucky. According to the 2024 State of Research Report by User Interviews, for every one dedicated researcher, there are five PWDRs—that stands for 'people w…
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How Can GenAI Make Analytics More Accessible to Product Teams? (with Mario Ciabarra)
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27:46Whether you prefer the term data-driven, or data-informed, or data-dazzled, it doesn't matter—today's tech cannot survive without high quality data sets AND the tools to use them effectively. But we also can't afford to think about data as the responsibility of just one or two departments in the organization—instead, we need to be going into 2025 w…
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How to Adopt a Global Mindset for Managing International Product Teams (with Craig Guarraci)
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26:46In the age of remote work, product teams can take a lot of forms, and are no longer limited to the talent pool of a specific geographic area. That means many of us are working closely every day with colleagues in completely different time zones, while also building products for customers around the world. And while the ability to connect, collabora…
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Why Accessibility Needs to Be a Top Priority in 2025 (with Prerna Ramachandra)
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36:33Accessibility often sits uncomfortably on the fringes of roadmap discussions. Many organizations prioritize features with the biggest impact, sidelining those that benefit a smaller percentage of users. Yet, the dialogue on accessibility is not just about inclusion but also intersects with business ethics and market expansion. In this episode, Hann…
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A Hot Take on Burnout in Product Management (with Evie Brockwell)
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23:59Burning out isn't a matter of 'if' as much as a matter of 'when'. According to Mind the Product, over 80 percent of product managers report experiencing burnout during their careers — and I reckon that number is pretty conservative. As high achievers, we're prone to pushing our limits beyond the breaking point when it comes to our careers. But even…
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The Best of The Product Manager Podcast in 2024
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29:10As we wrap up an extraordinary year, join us in reflecting on the highlights of The Product Manager Podcast in 2024. This milestone year included engaging conversations, insightful guests, and a growing audience that recently hit 100,000 downloads. In this special year-end edition, host Hannah Clark and producer Becca Banyard share behind-the-scene…
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How to Use AI to Supercharge Product-Led Growth (with Ramli John, Dani Grant, and Anuj Adhiya)
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47:43If we were to rank the top paradigm shifts in product in the last 10 years, I'd reckon AI and product-led growth would sit at the top of that list. Both concepts really come down to amplifying efficiency, doing more with less. But the real cheat code is bringing them together and using the time saving power of LLMs to enhance your PLG strategy. In …
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The AI Productivity & Prompt Engineering Hacks You’ll Need in 2025 (with Tal Raviv)
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27:56My guest today is Tal Raviv, the genius behind the popular course entitled "Build Your Personal PM Productivity System & AI Copilot", which is a pretty fancy name. And it's also a pretty big deal for someone who previously described himself as an AI skeptic. But for Tal, the game changer was figuring out why so many PMs struggle to extract the full…
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An Onboarding Expert’s Playbook for Maximizing Product Adoption Rates (with Ramli John)
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31:28As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. I think that old chestnut really sums up the product onboarding to adoption pipeline; just because a user has found your product doesn't mean they'll end up paying for it. I get it; it's frustrating when new users seem to arrive at your product, take a sniff, and gallop…
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Duolingo’s Head of Product Gives a Masterclass on Product Monetization (with Cem Kansu)
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39:42Pricing is a perennial hot topic. How much value should you provide for free, and at what point should users need to convert into paying customers? How much should you charge, and how often? In this episode, Hannah Clark is joined by Cem Kansu—Head of Product at Duolingo—to explore how Duolingo has navigated challenges in monetization, expansion in…
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Are Product Development Frameworks Boxing Us In? (with Avrum Laurie)
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32:11Product management is a field that often emphasizes the importance of frameworks. These tools provide a structured approach to the many tasks PMs face daily. However, reliance on frameworks can sometimes inadvertently stifle innovation and critical thinking. In this episode, Hannah Clark is joined by Avrum Laurie—CPO at Felix Health—to explore the …
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The Worst Moments in Tech of 2024 (with Victoria Ku)
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44:17In an era marked by rapid technological change and economic uncertainty, the tech industry once seen as a paragon of stability is now grappling with significant upheaval. In this episode, Hannah Clark is joined by Victoria Ku—ex-Airbnb and former Head of Product & Design at Highnote—to explore the shifting paradigms in the tech industry post-pandem…
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Pro Tips for Building Your AI Product Management Skillset (with Lorilyn McCue)
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24:42In an era where AI is transforming industries at a rapid pace, product roles infused with AI capabilities are among the most sought-after in tech. If you're looking to break into this sphere or enhance your existing skills, understanding the journey and strategies of those leading the charge can be incredibly beneficial. In this episode, Hannah Cla…
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Emotional Intelligence: The Key Ingredient for Strong Product Teams (with Robert Ta)
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50:04In the ever-evolving world of technology and product management, leaders are continually seeking the tools and skillsets that will set them apart. One of the most underrated yet essential competencies is emotional intelligence (EI), a trait that can significantly influence team dynamics, decision-making, and leadership effectiveness. In this episod…
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How Empathy Elevates Product Design in an AI-Obsessed World (with Koji Pereira)
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25:39In the fast-paced world of product design, balancing technological advancements with empathy is more critical than ever. In this episode, Hannah Clark is joined by Koji Pereira—VP of Design & Research at Sigma Computing—to offer a unique perspective on this delicate balance. Drawing from his rich career at tech giants like Google, Lyft, and Twitter…
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From Startup to Big Tech: How to Make the Switch (with Melika Hope)
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22:58Many professionals in the tech industry begin their journey in the dynamic world of startups, learning to thrive in fast-paced environments and wearing many hats. However, as career paths evolve, some find themselves curious about the opportunities and unique culture of larger tech companies. In this episode, Hannah Clark is joined by Melika Hope—D…
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The Business Case for Psychological Safety (with Nancy Chu)
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31:52In the world of product management, the popular adage "People don't leave bad jobs, they leave bad managers" resonates all too well. As leaders, it’s crucial to prioritize the human connection and support that teams need to foster a thriving work environment. In this episode, Hannah Clark is joined by Nancy Chu—PM Coach—to discuss how compassion pl…
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The Barriers to Product Adoption Are Not What You Think (with George Brooks)
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27:53Product adoption can sometimes feel as elusive as catching lightning in a bottle. There are myriad reasons why users might resist adopting new products, from the fear of change to the comfort of established routines. In this episode, Hannah Clark is joined by George Brooks—Founder and CEO of Crema—to explore these challenges and draw out actionable…
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How to Stand Out as an AI PM (with Praveen Gujar)
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25:52In an era where artificial intelligence is rapidly transforming various industries, developing expertise in AI product management is becoming indispensable for today's software product managers. In this episode, Hannah Clark is joined by Praveen Gujar—Director of Product at LinkedIn—to share his valuable perspectives on the critical skills needed f…
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How to Growth Hack Even if You’re Not a Growth PM (with Samantha Hepler)
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29:38In the ever-evolving landscape of product management, growth hacking has become a pivotal challenge for organizations aiming to scale their products effectively. In this episode, Hannah Clark is joined by Samantha Hepler—Principal Product Manager at Procore Technologies—to delve into the intricacies of sustainable growth strategies. Resources from …
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Data for Dummies: A Crash Course for Non-Technical PMs (with Mo Hallaba)
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23:23In today's data-driven landscape, organizations often find themselves drowning in a sea of data, yet struggling to glean actionable insights from it. Many companies are eager to label themselves as data-centric, but the reality is that not everyone is equally adept at interpreting and utilizing data effectively. Often, insights are fragmented, and …
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How to Negotiate Your Product Management Salary (with Josh Doody)
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28:22Navigating the world of salary negotiations can be daunting, but mastering this essential skill can significantly impact your career growth. In this episode, Hannah Clark is joined by Josh Doody—Salary Negotiation Coach for High Earners—to share strategies that can help job seekers potentially secure thousands of dollars more in compensation, and a…
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