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Ep 142: Writing, Endings & Publishing Myths with Novelist Turner Gable Kahn

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Click Here to ask your book writing and publishing questions!

What happens when a traditionally published debut novel suddenly appears on Kindle Unlimited while still showing wide? That unexpected twist opens into a bigger conversation about publishing decisions (and what’s actually within an author’s control).

In this episode, Turner Gable Kahn, author of The Dirty Version (Harper Perennial), shares how she honored her grandmothers with a pen name, threaded #MeToo-era questions into a contemporary romance, and wrestled with multiple endings before landing on the one that aligned with her feminist lens.

We also dig into her writing process. And, the publishing side. A sharp agent and editor helped shape her manuscript, but much to many authors' chagrin, even with a major publishing house, you’re still the one creating assets, posting, and doing the lion's share of marketing.

If you’re weighing traditional vs. indie, fighting the mid-book slump, or simply trying to finish without losing your mind, this conversation offers both clarity and solidarity.

🎉 NOW OPEN - AMAZON ADS FOR INDIE AUTHORS!

Access the first 6 modules of my newest course FOR FREE and see if the full course is right for you right here:

👉 https://www.publishaprofitablebook.com/freetrial

Get the first draft of your nonfiction or memoir written in 33 days!
...even if you don't have a cabin in the wilderness, 4 uninterrupted hours a day to write, or confidence that you're a "real" writer. No overwhelm, no confusion. Just simple, actionable steps.

👉 https://www.publishaprofitablebook/writethebook
AWESOME EMAIL TEMPLATES FOR AUTHORS

From communicating with your launch team to building incredible relationships with readers, my customizable templates take all the guesswork out of writing emails that turn email subscribers into loyal fans.

🎉 CLICK HERE to access to the templates

Support the show

Write the Damn Book Already is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with authors as well as updates and insights on writing craft and the publishing industry.
Available wherever podcasts are available:
Apple Podcasts
Spotify
YouTube

Let's Connect!
Instagram
Website

Email the show: elizabeth [at] elizabethlyons [dot] com
The podcast is a proud affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores.
To see all the ways we can work together to get your book written and published, visit publishaprofitablebook.com/work-with-elizabeth

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Chapters

1. Ep 142: Writing, Endings & Publishing Myths with Novelist Turner Gable Kahn (00:00:00)

2. Kindle Unlimited Mystery (00:01:58)

3. Time Zones, Coffee, and Set Design (00:03:36)

4. Indie vs Traditional Distribution (00:04:46)

5. Choosing a Pen Name with Meaning (00:05:19)

6. Origins of The Book’s Idea (00:07:03)

7. From Dystopia Threads to Romance (00:08:22)

8. Process Shift: Coach, Outlines, Drafts (00:09:52)

9. Structure Changes and Endings (00:12:05)

10. Picking the Most Feminist Ending (00:13:08)

11. Discipline Over Inspiration (00:13:55)

12. Procrastination, Practice, and Running (00:15:40)

13. Reviews, Headspace, and Creativity (00:17:44)

14. Trunk Novels and Recurring Themes (00:18:40)

15. Staying Fresh: New POVs and Projects (00:19:50)

16. Comparisons, Reception, and Freedom (00:21:52)

17. Why Traditional: Editing and Community (00:23:13)

18. Reality Check: You Still Market (00:24:52)

19. Social Media: Workload and Learning Curve (00:26:41)

20. Essays, Bookstores, and Time Costs (00:28:56)

21. Does Social Media Even Move Books? (00:30:58)

22. How We Really Find What to Read (00:32:59)

23. Current Reads and Recommendations (00:35:24)

24. Watching Authors’ Craft Evolve (00:37:56)

25. Backlists, Family Book Clubs, Zevin (00:39:44)

143 episodes

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Content provided by Elizabeth Lyons. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Elizabeth Lyons or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Click Here to ask your book writing and publishing questions!

What happens when a traditionally published debut novel suddenly appears on Kindle Unlimited while still showing wide? That unexpected twist opens into a bigger conversation about publishing decisions (and what’s actually within an author’s control).

In this episode, Turner Gable Kahn, author of The Dirty Version (Harper Perennial), shares how she honored her grandmothers with a pen name, threaded #MeToo-era questions into a contemporary romance, and wrestled with multiple endings before landing on the one that aligned with her feminist lens.

We also dig into her writing process. And, the publishing side. A sharp agent and editor helped shape her manuscript, but much to many authors' chagrin, even with a major publishing house, you’re still the one creating assets, posting, and doing the lion's share of marketing.

If you’re weighing traditional vs. indie, fighting the mid-book slump, or simply trying to finish without losing your mind, this conversation offers both clarity and solidarity.

🎉 NOW OPEN - AMAZON ADS FOR INDIE AUTHORS!

Access the first 6 modules of my newest course FOR FREE and see if the full course is right for you right here:

👉 https://www.publishaprofitablebook.com/freetrial

Get the first draft of your nonfiction or memoir written in 33 days!
...even if you don't have a cabin in the wilderness, 4 uninterrupted hours a day to write, or confidence that you're a "real" writer. No overwhelm, no confusion. Just simple, actionable steps.

👉 https://www.publishaprofitablebook/writethebook
AWESOME EMAIL TEMPLATES FOR AUTHORS

From communicating with your launch team to building incredible relationships with readers, my customizable templates take all the guesswork out of writing emails that turn email subscribers into loyal fans.

🎉 CLICK HERE to access to the templates

Support the show

Write the Damn Book Already is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with authors as well as updates and insights on writing craft and the publishing industry.
Available wherever podcasts are available:
Apple Podcasts
Spotify
YouTube

Let's Connect!
Instagram
Website

Email the show: elizabeth [at] elizabethlyons [dot] com
The podcast is a proud affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores.
To see all the ways we can work together to get your book written and published, visit publishaprofitablebook.com/work-with-elizabeth

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Ep 142: Writing, Endings & Publishing Myths with Novelist Turner Gable Kahn (00:00:00)

2. Kindle Unlimited Mystery (00:01:58)

3. Time Zones, Coffee, and Set Design (00:03:36)

4. Indie vs Traditional Distribution (00:04:46)

5. Choosing a Pen Name with Meaning (00:05:19)

6. Origins of The Book’s Idea (00:07:03)

7. From Dystopia Threads to Romance (00:08:22)

8. Process Shift: Coach, Outlines, Drafts (00:09:52)

9. Structure Changes and Endings (00:12:05)

10. Picking the Most Feminist Ending (00:13:08)

11. Discipline Over Inspiration (00:13:55)

12. Procrastination, Practice, and Running (00:15:40)

13. Reviews, Headspace, and Creativity (00:17:44)

14. Trunk Novels and Recurring Themes (00:18:40)

15. Staying Fresh: New POVs and Projects (00:19:50)

16. Comparisons, Reception, and Freedom (00:21:52)

17. Why Traditional: Editing and Community (00:23:13)

18. Reality Check: You Still Market (00:24:52)

19. Social Media: Workload and Learning Curve (00:26:41)

20. Essays, Bookstores, and Time Costs (00:28:56)

21. Does Social Media Even Move Books? (00:30:58)

22. How We Really Find What to Read (00:32:59)

23. Current Reads and Recommendations (00:35:24)

24. Watching Authors’ Craft Evolve (00:37:56)

25. Backlists, Family Book Clubs, Zevin (00:39:44)

143 episodes

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