In this episode of Words of Life, we continue our series with counselor and speaker Dr. Zach Clinton, drawing from his latest book Even If. Zach reminds us that God often reveals Himself in our moments of pressure and pain, using trials to shape us into the likeness of Christ. Through powerful stories—including the survival of a Bible in the midst of a house fire—this conversation explores how hardship exposes our foundation, why consistency matters more than intensity, and the true cost of following Jesus. If you’ve ever wrestled with resilience, discipline, or trusting God through suffering, this episode will strengthen your faith and encourage you to keep pressing toward the mark.

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