Two single, childless adults discuss recent pushback against parental leave programs and how America could and should do parental leave better.
Following Ted and Marni's moderately informed discussion, Avi Kopparthi, Senior Director of HR at a major corporation joins for an interview about how forward-thinking corporations are handling HR challenges and where government intervention could help drive progress.
Tune in next week for an additional interview that offers a journalistic perspective on this topic.
Connect with Avi
Check out the articles we referenced:
Pew: Women more than men adjust their careers for family life
Parents Got More Time Off. Then the Backlash Started.
We need to talk about the bias against child-free employees
Child-free workers aren’t selfish. They’re being exploited

Read the books we recommend:
The Ugly Cry, by Danielle Henderson
In the Fields Between Us, by Molly McCully Brown and Susannah Nevison
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