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Integration or Intensity: Shamanism Beyond Psychedelics

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Psychedelics and plant medicine have become increasingly intertwined with modern spiritual practices, but are these substances truly necessary for profound spiritual experiences? This question sits at the heart of our candid conversation about the relationship between Shamanism, plant medicine, and psychedelics.
The conversation delves into the long-term integration process of psychedelic experiences, contrasting it with conscious shamanic methods that engage both mind and spirit in real time. Using the metaphor of an escalator versus stairs, we emphasize that while both paths can lead to transformation, shamanic techniques—like breathwork and meditation—build inner strength without giving power away to external tools.

Along the way, we discuss:

  • The relationship between psychedelics, plant medicine, and spirituality
  • Questioning the necessity of substances for spiritual experiences
  • Our unique perspectives and experiences with psychedelics
  • the difference between plant medicine and psychedelics
  • Risks of giving spiritual power away to substances
  • The importance of integration after psychedelic experiences
  • The stairs vs. escalator metaphor for spiritual growth
  • The role of your subconscious mind in the use of psychedelics
  • Empowerment through conscious Shamanic techniques
  • And so much more!

The Moon Rising team brings diverse perspectives to this nuanced topic, challenging the assumption that psychedelics are necessary for spiritual growth.

Ready to expand and heal without the use of psychedelics? Our Soul Rising Shamanic Reiki program is now open for enrollment! Early Bird price ends August 31st.

Learn more about the course: https://moonrisinginstitute.com/soul-rising/

Book a FREE Discovery Call: https://calendly.com/christinerenee/10-minute-connect-call-srpt?month=2025-08

Moon Rising Shamanic Institute Links:
Website: https://moonrisinginstitute.com/
Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/moonrisinginstitute
Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/moonrisingmystics
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/moonrising.institute
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@moonrisinginstitute
Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://moonrisinginstitute.kit.com/spiritguide

Book a session with Isabel: https://calendly.com/into-the-deep/schedule
Book a FREE 15 minute connect call with Izzy: https://calendly.com/moonrisinginstitute/connect

Book a session with Christine: https://calendly.com/christinerenee/90-minutes-intensive
Book a FREE 10 minute connect call with Christine: https://calendly.com/christinerenee/10-minute-connect-call-srpt

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Chapters

1. Introduction to Plant Medicine Discussion (00:00:00)

2. Shamanism Without Psychedelics (00:09:31)

3. Conscious Integration vs. Unconscious Experience (00:17:12)

4. Taking Control of Your Own Energy (00:27:42)

5. The Staircase vs. Escalator Metaphor (00:37:39)

6. Soul Rising Program Announcement (00:51:33)

7. Closing Thoughts and Contact Information (01:01:05)

295 episodes

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Send Us a Message!

Psychedelics and plant medicine have become increasingly intertwined with modern spiritual practices, but are these substances truly necessary for profound spiritual experiences? This question sits at the heart of our candid conversation about the relationship between Shamanism, plant medicine, and psychedelics.
The conversation delves into the long-term integration process of psychedelic experiences, contrasting it with conscious shamanic methods that engage both mind and spirit in real time. Using the metaphor of an escalator versus stairs, we emphasize that while both paths can lead to transformation, shamanic techniques—like breathwork and meditation—build inner strength without giving power away to external tools.

Along the way, we discuss:

  • The relationship between psychedelics, plant medicine, and spirituality
  • Questioning the necessity of substances for spiritual experiences
  • Our unique perspectives and experiences with psychedelics
  • the difference between plant medicine and psychedelics
  • Risks of giving spiritual power away to substances
  • The importance of integration after psychedelic experiences
  • The stairs vs. escalator metaphor for spiritual growth
  • The role of your subconscious mind in the use of psychedelics
  • Empowerment through conscious Shamanic techniques
  • And so much more!

The Moon Rising team brings diverse perspectives to this nuanced topic, challenging the assumption that psychedelics are necessary for spiritual growth.

Ready to expand and heal without the use of psychedelics? Our Soul Rising Shamanic Reiki program is now open for enrollment! Early Bird price ends August 31st.

Learn more about the course: https://moonrisinginstitute.com/soul-rising/

Book a FREE Discovery Call: https://calendly.com/christinerenee/10-minute-connect-call-srpt?month=2025-08

Moon Rising Shamanic Institute Links:
Website: https://moonrisinginstitute.com/
Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/moonrisinginstitute
Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/moonrisingmystics
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/moonrising.institute
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@moonrisinginstitute
Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://moonrisinginstitute.kit.com/spiritguide

Book a session with Isabel: https://calendly.com/into-the-deep/schedule
Book a FREE 15 minute connect call with Izzy: https://calendly.com/moonrisinginstitute/connect

Book a session with Christine: https://calendly.com/christinerenee/90-minutes-intensive
Book a FREE 10 minute connect call with Christine: https://calendly.com/christinerenee/10-minute-connect-call-srpt

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Introduction to Plant Medicine Discussion (00:00:00)

2. Shamanism Without Psychedelics (00:09:31)

3. Conscious Integration vs. Unconscious Experience (00:17:12)

4. Taking Control of Your Own Energy (00:27:42)

5. The Staircase vs. Escalator Metaphor (00:37:39)

6. Soul Rising Program Announcement (00:51:33)

7. Closing Thoughts and Contact Information (01:01:05)

295 episodes

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