Shadow work around numbing, not caring, and giving zero f*cks explores the self-protective side of emotional shutdown — and how to gently reawaken the parts of us that care an awful lot.

In this episode of Wholehearted Loving, Georgianna and Steph unpack how avoidance, denial, and numbness often began as brilliant childhood survival strategies. Georgianna shares a deeply moving story about her son’s “I don’t care” — and how meeting his shutdown with compassion revealed a tender sensitivity beneath the surface. Steph reflects on her own years of “not caring” and how that numbness was actually proof of how deeply she cared, without tools to manage the feelings that come with caring.

Together, they explore how to create inner spaciousness without shutting down, and how to reclaim the part of us that still longs for connection, safety, and care — for ourselves and others.

Discover how:

• “I don’t care” can signal care that’s gone underground

• Spaciousness builds capacity for love, not distance from it

• Feeling is the bridge back to passion and aliveness

"Like finding gold." – Alma W.

"The best therapy I've ever done for myself." – Sanjeev B.

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With love,

Georgianna & Steph