A rare conversation with Frank Phillips, one of the original "plank owners" of SEAL Team 6 and Red Cell, takes us behind the curtain of America's elite counter-terrorism unit and reveals startling truths about national security vulnerabilities that later became tragic realities.
Frank shares his remarkable journey from being a restless 17-year-old who "just wanted to be a warrior" to becoming part of the legendary unit personally selected by Commander Richard Marcinko in 1980. With candor and humility, he recounts the grueling selection process, intense training regimens, and the unique culture that made SEAL Team 6 revolutionary in special operations.
Perhaps most compelling are Frank's revelations about his work with "Red Cell" – a specialized team tasked with testing security at America's most sensitive facilities by simulating terrorist attacks. "It was a lot easier than it should be," Frank admits about penetrating nuclear sites, embassies, and military installations. His account of flying a plane near a submarine during a security exercise in the 1980s feels eerily prescient, given later events.
Throughout our conversation, Frank offers a nuanced perspective on the controversial Commander Marcinko, describing him as "a visionary" who was "light years ahead of everyone else" in understanding emerging threats. "It was never about him," Frank insists, countering public perceptions of his former leader. The deep bonds formed among these elite warriors shine through as Frank reflects on old team photos, noting with poignancy that many teammates are now deceased: "Every one of those 80 of us created a bond that will never, ever be broken."
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