Episode Summary |

In this conversation, Emily Bouchard and Meghan French Dunbar explore the evolving definition of success, emphasizing the importance of intrinsic motivation over traditional extrinsic markers. Meghan shares her personal journey from a high-achieving entrepreneur to redefining success through mental health, family values, and holistic leadership. They discuss the significance of aligning personal and organizational values, the impact of gender dynamics in leadership, and practical strategies for achieving a balanced and fulfilling life.

Chapters |

00:00 Redefining Success: A Personal Journey

10:33 The Shift from Extrinsic to Intrinsic Motivation

20:36 Holistic Leadership: Balancing Masculine and Feminine Traits

25:11 Practical Strategies for a Fulfilling Life

30:32 The Importance of Values in Leadership

Guest Bio |

Meghan French Dunbar is a “business anthropologist” who studies organizations to find ways to improve work for everyone.

Her first book, This Isn’t Working, came out August 5th, 2025 as the #1 Amazon release for Women In Business and #2 in Workplace Culture, becoming a best-seller in both categories.

Prior to that, she co-founded the first nationally distributed print magazine in the U.S. focusing on impact-driven business, Conscious Company Magazine, where she interviewed more than 1,000 business leaders;

In addition to writing, she also works with companies, like Coach, Kate Spade, Leonard Green, and more on leadership and culture development and hosts Better Than This, a podcast all about overhauling business-as-usual

Guest Resources |

https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghanfrenchdunbar/

https://meghanfrenchdunbar.substack.com/

https://www.instagram.com/meghanfrenchdunbar/

https://www.meghanfrenchdunbar.com/

Meghan’s Book - This Isn't Working: How Working Women Can Overcome Stress, Guilt, and Overload to Find True Success - https://bookshop.org/p/books/this-isn-t-working-how-working-women-can-overcome-stress-guilt-and-overload-to-find-true-success-meghan-french-dunbar/3775a58ced9d08f8?ean=9781541704862&next=t&next=t&affiliate=2344

Emily's Resources |

https://emilybouchard.com/

https://blendedfamiliesflourishing.com/

Heart*Brain*Horse*Coherence Retreats: https://emilybouchard.com/retreat/