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What happens when our most carefully constructed spiritual ideas shatter against unexpected loss and pain? What treasures lie hidden in the fractures of our broken expectations? This conversation between Rev Joya and Xavier ventures courageously into territory many spiritual discussions avoid – the messy, contradictory reality of awakening that demands we embrace both light and shadow.
Xavier, author of "Scars of Gold," shares his journey of spiritual unfoldment with disarming honesty. He reveals how expressing our true brightness can feel more vulnerable than physical nakedness, describing it as "your light is your cross" – that which demands our hearts remain completely unguarded. Together, they explore what Xavier calls "the real original sin" – self-abandonment – and how our first betrayal is often repressing our own light rather than our pain.
The discussion takes a profound turn when Rev Joya shares her experience of "mystical grief" following her son's death. This rupture broke her heart so wide open that it revealed spiritual truths that intellectual understanding alone could never access. Xavier responds with the insight that some forms of grief don't get processed by us – they process us, demanding complete surrender to something larger than our ego's attempts to control pain.
Most revolutionary is their reimagining of shadow work. Rather than viewing our shadow as something malevolent to be conquered, Xavier reframes it as "the dark face of your higher self" – a benevolent aspect of psyche holding disowned parts until we're ready to integrate them. This perspective transforms our relationship with triggered reactions, inviting curiosity: "What need do I believe I can only meet through this reaction?"
Listen to discover how the paradoxes of spiritual awakening – simultaneously dressing in soul while undressing from ego – create the alchemical conditions for genuine transformation. Your awakened frequency truly is the frequency that will change the world.

Xavier Dagba is many things that deserve there own spaciousness rather than an identity. In his own words:
"Self liberation is my specialty. It's the path I am devoted to. Explore my workshops, membership community or group coaching offerings. My 1:1 bespoke coaching container is where I bring it all. Join me in a unique transformative and co-creative experience to dissolve the unseen forces that keep you stuck, so that your heart can get unleashed."
Xavier is the author of He is the author of Scars of Gold: A Framework for Self-Liberation, Integration, and Healing through Shadow Work Paperback – due to release on September 23, 2025, and specializes in helping people transform their deepest wounds into spiritual gold through shadow integration and emotional alchemy.
You can find him at XavierDagba.com

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