Vance Roush is the Founder and CEO of Overflow (www.overflow.co) and is on a mission to inspire the world to give.

Specifically, Overflow.co unlocks unprecedented levels of generosity by empowering Nonprofits, Foundations, and Corporations to accept non-cash assets like stocks & crypto with ease.

90% of wealth is in non-cash assets and organizations are still mainly fundraising for cash. Overflow is fixing that.

Outside of Overflow, Vance serves on the board of Nonprofits such as needhelp.online, on VIVE Church as a Founding member, and has a tech background from companies like Google. Him & his wife, Kim, live in Silicon Valley with their 4 children.

We discussed Vance's journey from Co-Founding the VIVE Church, to then starting Overflow during the toughest times in COVID, and growing it to where it is today.

I'm especially impressed by Vance's life principles and his devotion to spirituality and using it as a lens to see through challenges in both life and work.

We also discussed how founders today can avoid burnout, what differentiates the best founders and founders who just want to make a quick buck, and tackling the startup talent problem in the startup downturn in 2022.

Episode timestamp:

0:16 Introduction
0:38 Starting Overflow to help people find more ways to give
3:37 Innovating in a traditional industry: what is it like?
6:07 Pay-as-you-go vs. SaaS
8:00 Founding the VIVE Church in Silicon Valley
14:25 Use spirituality to become a better person and founder
19:19 Lead with spirituality and life principles
24:05 Why everyone is having burnout in tech
27:47 Why it's harder for startups to recruit now
30:01 What should aspiring founders do before quitting their jobs
32:55 Why are there more immigrant founders leading unicorns?
37:15 Growing and validating during COVID
39:02 Is startups all about revenue now?
40:55 Making a better culture and how it prepares you to scale