On June 18, our host Mimi is joined by CODEPINK cofounder Jodie Evans and Dana Showtyme Burton, founder of Iron Mic, to discuss about these topics:
00:00 - 01:08 | Intro
01:09 - 08:30 | Why I Moved to China
Dana explains leaving Detroit, disillusionment with U.S. decline, and initial discovery of China.
08:31 - 11:59 | Systemic Decay in the U.S. vs. Problem Solving in China
Discussion of societal breakdown in the U.S. and contrast with how China addresses challenges.
12:00 – 38:16 | Deprogramming Western Propaganda
How perceptions of China are shaped by media, Dana’s personal unlearning process, and historical bias.
38:17 – 55:11 | Music and Social Media as Cultural Bridge-Building
Dana details his work connecting Chinese and American artists and how genuine cultural exchange resists political division.
55:12 - 01:07:02 | Anti-China Hate in the U.S. and Its Consequences
Analysis of how U.S. propaganda fuels real-world violence against Asians and suppresses authentic dialogue.
01:07:03-01:13:24 | Building Bridges and Global Citizenship
Final reflections on solutions, citizen responsibility, and maintaining people-to-people connections despite propaganda.

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