In this episode of Walk Talk Listen, we are joined by Catherine Russ, an expert in collaborative systems, adult education, and partnership brokering. With over 15 years of experience across INGOs, UN agencies, governments, corporates, and the World Economic Forum, Catherine brings a unique lens to what it takes to build meaningful partnerships. Her work spans both structural transformation—helping organizations shift from top-down hierarchies to collaborative ecosystems—and personal transformation, using behavioral science and neuroscience to unlock how people and partners learn best. Together, Catherine and Maurice explore the “ongoing dance” between control and emergence, power and vulnerability, learning and unlearning. Catherine reflects on the need for courage in changing how we relate and the subtle, powerful role facilitators play in shaping group culture. It’s a thought-provoking and practical conversation for anyone working in partnerships, systems change, or adult learning—and anyone ready to rethink how we work together. Listener Engagement

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