Search a title or topic

Over 20 million podcasts, powered by 

Player FM logo
Artwork

Content provided by Verse. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Verse or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.
Player FM - Podcast App
Go offline with the Player FM app!

Raoul Pal: from Real Vision to the new art world

56:41
 
Share
 

Manage episode 510952292 series 3600142
Content provided by Verse. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Verse or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

00:25 – Intro: Raoul Pal

01:05 – Real Vision: why it started after the GFC/Euro crisis

02:06 – Democratising finance content; early crypto coverage

03:41 – Bootstrapping video: “we knew f*** all” era (2013–14)

04:45 – Word of mouth growth; mistakes + learning media/tech

06:40 – Art + NFTs: desire to be part of a cultural movement

09:05 – Crypto Twitter as daily culture; priceless long-term record

10:33 – What is “consensus”? Attention as the driver

13:00 – Influencers vs. durable consensus (fleeting vs. lasting)

14:32 – Do we need museum/gallery validation? Two worlds emerge

16:36 – Museums, value, and attention

17:19 – Counterpoint from museum practice; cultural significance

18:37 – Once museums act, value follows; UK institutions lag on digital

20:56 – Egalitarian internet: anyone can show, few will sell

22:19 – Raoul’s barbell thesis: ultra-culture ↔ frontier tech

24:10 – Living with digital art; display that works vs. doesn’t

25:33 – XCOPY supply dynamics; Beeple’s opposite path

28:05 – Die With The Most Likes: world-building & collector bonds

29:57 – Explaining it to the “old world”; youth curators & A&R analogy

30:52 – People will write the art history; institutions must adapt

32:27 – Contemporary art attention collapse; digital shows done poorly

33:48 – Onboarding wealthy collectors: friction + sticker shock

35:48 – Curation, custody, and NFT funds as bridges

37:22 – Can outsiders “feel it” without the chats? Not yet

38:52 – Is recommending digital art scary? On risk & Lindy effects

40:19 – The collector’s journey: pain → pride → taste

41:57 – Where are we in the NFT art cycle? Re-ratings ahead

43:45 – Token incentives = attention fuel, but fleeting

44:48 – Toward automated, attention-driven art funds (later)

46:11 – Shiny objects vs. signal; what the experiments teach

48:00 – AI upends moats; community as the moat

49:39 – One-to-one media future; end of “one-to-many”

51:00 – Human connection, shared experiences become scarce

51:40 – Art as cultural capsule in an AI world

53:06 – Marfa event as a “marker stone”

54:13 – Small world energy; one degree of separation

55:18 – Thanks + closing…

55:37 – One last Q: why Raoul goes against the grain

56:05 – Rebellion roots; living in the future

57:38 – Do it differently; travel > prestige paths

59:50 – Be yourself in the age of AI; find your voice

01:00:26 – Comfort zone ≠ where the magic happens

https://x.com/RaoulGMI

https://x.com/XCOPYART

https://x.com/kimasendorf

https://x.com/toadswiback

  continue reading

66 episodes

Artwork
iconShare
 
Manage episode 510952292 series 3600142
Content provided by Verse. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Verse or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

00:25 – Intro: Raoul Pal

01:05 – Real Vision: why it started after the GFC/Euro crisis

02:06 – Democratising finance content; early crypto coverage

03:41 – Bootstrapping video: “we knew f*** all” era (2013–14)

04:45 – Word of mouth growth; mistakes + learning media/tech

06:40 – Art + NFTs: desire to be part of a cultural movement

09:05 – Crypto Twitter as daily culture; priceless long-term record

10:33 – What is “consensus”? Attention as the driver

13:00 – Influencers vs. durable consensus (fleeting vs. lasting)

14:32 – Do we need museum/gallery validation? Two worlds emerge

16:36 – Museums, value, and attention

17:19 – Counterpoint from museum practice; cultural significance

18:37 – Once museums act, value follows; UK institutions lag on digital

20:56 – Egalitarian internet: anyone can show, few will sell

22:19 – Raoul’s barbell thesis: ultra-culture ↔ frontier tech

24:10 – Living with digital art; display that works vs. doesn’t

25:33 – XCOPY supply dynamics; Beeple’s opposite path

28:05 – Die With The Most Likes: world-building & collector bonds

29:57 – Explaining it to the “old world”; youth curators & A&R analogy

30:52 – People will write the art history; institutions must adapt

32:27 – Contemporary art attention collapse; digital shows done poorly

33:48 – Onboarding wealthy collectors: friction + sticker shock

35:48 – Curation, custody, and NFT funds as bridges

37:22 – Can outsiders “feel it” without the chats? Not yet

38:52 – Is recommending digital art scary? On risk & Lindy effects

40:19 – The collector’s journey: pain → pride → taste

41:57 – Where are we in the NFT art cycle? Re-ratings ahead

43:45 – Token incentives = attention fuel, but fleeting

44:48 – Toward automated, attention-driven art funds (later)

46:11 – Shiny objects vs. signal; what the experiments teach

48:00 – AI upends moats; community as the moat

49:39 – One-to-one media future; end of “one-to-many”

51:00 – Human connection, shared experiences become scarce

51:40 – Art as cultural capsule in an AI world

53:06 – Marfa event as a “marker stone”

54:13 – Small world energy; one degree of separation

55:18 – Thanks + closing…

55:37 – One last Q: why Raoul goes against the grain

56:05 – Rebellion roots; living in the future

57:38 – Do it differently; travel > prestige paths

59:50 – Be yourself in the age of AI; find your voice

01:00:26 – Comfort zone ≠ where the magic happens

https://x.com/RaoulGMI

https://x.com/XCOPYART

https://x.com/kimasendorf

https://x.com/toadswiback

  continue reading

66 episodes

All episodes

×
 
Loading …

Welcome to Player FM!

Player FM is scanning the web for high-quality podcasts for you to enjoy right now. It's the best podcast app and works on Android, iPhone, and the web. Signup to sync subscriptions across devices.

 

Copyright 2025 | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | | Copyright
Listen to this show while you explore
Play