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Rapid Maneuverability, with Jeff Thornburg (CEO of Portal Space Systems)
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Jeff Thornburg helped build Raptor at SpaceX. Now he’s building something new: a spacecraft designed for rapid maneuverability across orbits powered by solar thermal propulsion.
In this episode of Valley of Depth, we get into the technical, strategic, and commercial implications of in-space mobility and why it matters now. Topics include:
- The hardest parts of building a rocket engine (and why most startups get it wrong)
- The origins of the Raptor engine and lessons from SpaceX
- Why Portal is betting on solar thermal propulsion
- How Supernova enables fast, responsive movement across LEO, MEO, and GEO
- The case for refueling in orbit and designing without dependencies
- Why defense needs faster spacecraft and what commercial use cases follow
- How Thornburg sees Starship changing the economics of space
and much more…
• Chapters •
00:00 – Intro
01:44 – What drew Jeff to creating engines?
05:13 – Why is building rocket engines still so difficult?
11:50 – Jeff's time at SpaceX
17:52 – Stratolaunch and Commonwealth Fusion and why Jeff moved on
22:50 – Origin of Portal
25:25 – Commercial use case
27:00 – 5 year vision for Portal's architecture
32:01 – Pricing
34:52 – Solar thermal propulsion
38:14 – What comes after Portal's Supernova?
41:15 – Customer traction and Supernova flight
45:44 – Competition in solar thermal propulsion
49:20 – Fundraising prior to the first launch
51:18 – Portal in the next 10 years
54:53 – State of Starship
• Show notes •
Jeff’s socials — https://x.com/JeffThornburg
Antares’ socials — https://x.com/PortalSpaceSys
Antares’ website — https://www.portalsystems.space/
Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam
Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace
Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /
https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/
Tectonic’s socials — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/
Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/
• About us •
Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.
- Payload: www.payloadspace.com
- Ignition: www.ignition-news.com
- Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com
137 episodes
Manage episode 492258400 series 3357613
Jeff Thornburg helped build Raptor at SpaceX. Now he’s building something new: a spacecraft designed for rapid maneuverability across orbits powered by solar thermal propulsion.
In this episode of Valley of Depth, we get into the technical, strategic, and commercial implications of in-space mobility and why it matters now. Topics include:
- The hardest parts of building a rocket engine (and why most startups get it wrong)
- The origins of the Raptor engine and lessons from SpaceX
- Why Portal is betting on solar thermal propulsion
- How Supernova enables fast, responsive movement across LEO, MEO, and GEO
- The case for refueling in orbit and designing without dependencies
- Why defense needs faster spacecraft and what commercial use cases follow
- How Thornburg sees Starship changing the economics of space
and much more…
• Chapters •
00:00 – Intro
01:44 – What drew Jeff to creating engines?
05:13 – Why is building rocket engines still so difficult?
11:50 – Jeff's time at SpaceX
17:52 – Stratolaunch and Commonwealth Fusion and why Jeff moved on
22:50 – Origin of Portal
25:25 – Commercial use case
27:00 – 5 year vision for Portal's architecture
32:01 – Pricing
34:52 – Solar thermal propulsion
38:14 – What comes after Portal's Supernova?
41:15 – Customer traction and Supernova flight
45:44 – Competition in solar thermal propulsion
49:20 – Fundraising prior to the first launch
51:18 – Portal in the next 10 years
54:53 – State of Starship
• Show notes •
Jeff’s socials — https://x.com/JeffThornburg
Antares’ socials — https://x.com/PortalSpaceSys
Antares’ website — https://www.portalsystems.space/
Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam
Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace
Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /
https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/
Tectonic’s socials — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/
Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/
• About us •
Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.
- Payload: www.payloadspace.com
- Ignition: www.ignition-news.com
- Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com
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