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The Latest on CBDCs and Digital ID, Ep #073
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Melissa Ciummei, an independent investor and researcher in Northern Ireland, joins us on Upthinking Finance™ to take a global look at the rapidly evolving world of digital currencies, digital IDs, and the shifting economic landscape.
We discuss the push for Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) in the EU, UK, and US, explaining how digital identity is becoming an essential precursor for programmable money and increased financial oversight.
The discussion digs into the societal impacts of these technologies, exploring everything from privacy concerns and geopolitical pressures to generational shifts in values and the consequences of ever-growing inequality.
Whether you’re curious about the politicized rollouts of stablecoins, the quiet move toward digital surveillance, or you want to understand how new technologies are reshaping money, this episode gives you a nuanced perspective on the future of finance and the growing importance of community involvement in shaping that future.
Join us for an eye-opening conversation that connects the dots between economic policy, digital innovation, and the real-life consequences for individuals and society at large.
You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...
- Digital ID: Foundation before CBDCs [00:00]
- EU tensions and trade challenges [06:14]
- Why Melissa sees geopolitical and economic tensions rising [07:30]
- Why Digital ID adoption in the US is limited and the focus is on currency [13:23]
- Travel fast pass solutions and the impact of using biometrics to skip the line [16:35]
- Gold's quiet role in finance [27:16]
- Homeownership challenges for younger generations [29:47]
- Hackers pose risks, and laws are outdated [36:01]
- An example of how community dynamics are changing local politics [44:50]
The Rise of Programmable Money and Digital Identification
As the world moves deeper into the digital age, few topics spark more concern or confusion than the twin emergence of programmable money and digital ID systems. But these technological frameworks threaten the autonomy and privacy traditionally associated with money and identity.
At the heart of the discussion was the evolution from fiat currency, where some level of anonymity is preserved, to digital currencies tethered to the state and tech platforms. Melissa highlights that programmable money would be the most dominant thing that people need to think about when considering CBDC.
Once financial and identity data converge, possibilities for control, whether for taxation, surveillance, or social engineering, multiply rapidly.
A Fragmented Push Toward the Digital Future
The EU is leading the charge to implement digital ID and currency. However, this technocratic race collides with real-time social resistance, especially spiraling around immigration and cultural integration.
Melissa describes a backlash in places like Poland, Ireland, and the UK, where citizens increasingly question the motives behind digital migration controls and see digital ID as a tool of exclusion rather than inclusion.
Turning to the U.S., the conversation covered whether states’ rights and American federal diversity provide meaningful protection against the encroachment of digital money and ID versus the EU’s top-down approach.
Initiatives like Real ID and mobile driver’s licenses represent “function creep”: stepwise moves that make opting out of digital surveillance increasingly inconvenient.
Melissa gives a real-world example from airports, where facial recognition and biometric fast-tracking nudge even skeptical travelers into compliance. Seamless travel or instant payments are the carrot, but gradual loss of privacy and agency is the stick.
The Looming Economic Shift
A key issue threaded through the discussion was whether these advances are responses to deeper economic failures, particularly ballooning government debt and the exhaustion of the fiat system.
The introduction of stablecoins, programmable welfare, and tax rails may patch over cracks, but don’t address underlying imbalances and inflation, increasing inequality, and public alienation are likely to surge.
Despite the daunting picture, the hosts find genuine optimism in the values and behaviors of younger generations. As Melissa puts it, “this generation…they’re not falling for the shiny things…they’re quite difficult then to control.”
For many, authenticity, community, and local engagement trump material consumption and blind trust in institutions. Genuine change starts not with global technocrats but in town councils and neighborhood coalitions.
Small-scale resistance and collective creativity, rather than mass compliance or digital acquiescence, may yet offer a route to a more humane social contract. The journey toward digital currencies and identity systems is about more than technology; it’s about who holds power, how social contracts are rewritten, and what futures we’re willing to trade for convenience.
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