Episode 38: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – sit down with Nir Eyal – https://www.linkedin.com/in/nireyal – for a deep dive into distraction, focus, and fatherhood. From the famous “superpower story” with his daughter, to why attention is the skill of the century, Nir unpacks how to control your time, your triggers, and your tech. The conversation covers parenting in the age of screens, the difference between use and abuse, and how AI might reshape learning and family life. Plus: reconciling Hooked and Indistractable, building better habits, and why being present is the ultimate superpower.

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Show Notes:
(0:00) Welcoming Nir Eyal, author of Hooked and Indistractable
(1:15) The “superpower story” that changed how Nir views attention
(3:55) Tech vs. parenting: when phones compete with kids
(6:00) Why attention—not information—is the true skill of the century
(10:20) Stories of millennial parenting and putting devices down
(13:00) The 7-day digital disconnect challenge for families
(14:20) Screen time vs. screen abuse: making the distinction
(19:30) Internal triggers and why distraction starts within
(27:30) How Nir uses AI for writing, notes, and parenting perspectives
(30:00) The future of learning, AI, and education reform
(36:00) Sponsor shoutout: Momentus supplements
(36:30) Nir on handling distraction spirals in real time
(45:20) Reconciling Hooked vs. Indistractable: use vs. misuse
(48:45) Closing gratitude and where to find Nir online

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Links:
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
• Nir Eyal's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/nireyal
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com
• Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com
• Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP
• Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964
• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai

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Learn More About Nir:
• Check out his book: http://geni.us/indistractable
• Indistractable bonus content: http://www.nirandfar.com/indistractable/
• Indistractable summary article: https://www.nirandfar.com/skill-of-the-future/
• Timeboxing article: https://www.nirandfar.com/timeboxing/
• Values article: https://www.nirandfar.com/common-values/
• Free habit tracker tool: https://www.nirandfar.com/habit-tracker/
• Free schedule maker tool: https://www.nirandfar.com/schedule-maker/
• List of top articles: https://www.nirandfar.com/best-articles/