Transcendence, Immanence, and Why Charlie Kirk is Bad at Theology with Kevin Carnahan & Aaron Simmons

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Hey y’all, so this was our first live stream kicking off this online democracy summit we’re doing – basically a bunch of us nerds getting together to wrestle with why everything seems to be falling apart politically and what the hell we’re supposed to do about it. Kevin Carnahan and Aaron Simmons joined me to dig into Kevin’s lecture about Christian citizenship, which traces this fascinating line from Jesus through Augustine to Luther to Bonhoeffer, showing how Christianity actually offers an alternative to totalitarianism rather than supporting it. We got into some pretty heated but friendly disagreement about whether you can have real democracy without religious reasons motivating people (Kevin’s take) versus whether we need to secularize our arguments to avoid the fundamentalist trap (Aaron’s pushback). The whole thing was this beautiful mess of trying to figure out how to love your MAGA neighbor while also maybe needing to put them in timeout, whether God prevents totalitarianism or enables it, and why Christians are just now talking about Palestine when they should’ve been screaming about it for months. Classic HBC nerdy chaos with some actual wisdom mixed in.

Aaron Simmons is an Associate Professor of Philosophy at Furman University. You can follow his Substack ‘Philosophy in the Wild.’

Kevin Carnahan is Professor of Philosophy and Religion at Central Methodist University in Fayette, MO.

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