podcast 390 – Why the New Testament Jesus is not Fully Divine

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In this episode I open by briefly explaining the gap this year in my podcasting. Then you’ll hear my presentation from the first ever New Zealand UCA Conference.

Longstanding catholic traditions teach that Jesus is both fully divine, having the sort of divinity enjoyed by the Father Almighty, and fully human, being “like us in all things but sin.” The problem with this is that the godman idea they’re selling implies numerous contradictions. Since no contradiction (statement of form P and not-P) can be true, even one implied contradiction shows a godman to be impossible. In this lecture I spell out fourteen contradictions between divinity (having all the essential divine attributes) and what the New Testament teaches about the Lord Jesus Christ.

Listen all the way to the end, and I’ll tell you what has happened with this lecture since I presented it in New Zealand: I will share some exciting news!

Divine attribute	Attribute of the New Testament Jesus	When discussed
Essential Immortality?	Died	7:05
Essentially Untemptable?	Was tempted	9:16
Essentially Perfect in Virtue	Grew in virtue	11:15
Essentially Omnipresent	Moved	15:15
Essentially Unlimited Knowledge	Limited Knowledge of	18:35
Essentially Unable to Trust God as Someone Subject to God	Put his Trust in God	20:27
Essentially Unable to Sleep	Slept	22:33
Essentially not under (subject to) Anyone	Under (subject to) God	25:51
Essentially Unable to be Obligated to Worship Anyone	Obligated to Worship God	31:38
Essentially Unable to Pray	Prayed	34:44
Essentially Unable to be Obligated to Obey God	Obligated to Obey God	37:28
Essentially Uncreated	As a Human, Part of God’s Creation	39:40
The Ultimate Source Creator	Not the Ultimate Source Creator	41:26
Essentially Perfectly Good	Non-Essentially Various Degrees of Good	44:15

If you want to see my slides, here is the UCA’s video version:

https://youtu.be/l_ZeKzAvaYg?si=eRbRUNyw1q4C2IjL

Links for this episode:

A letter from the Lord Jesus: About God and Me (Revised)

Adam Pelser, “Temptation, Virtue, and the Character of Christ“

podcast 277 – Was Christ tempted in every way?

Jesus’s temptations and ours

podcast 277 – Was Christ tempted in every way?

podcast 146 – Jesus as an Exemplar of Faith in the New Testament

Tuggy, “Jesus as an exemplar of faith in the New Testament“

Kapusta, Scripturae Contra Trinitatem – The Epistle to the Hebrews: An Anthology of Quotations, Alternative Expositions, and Critical Commentaries on Common Trinitarian Proof-Texts

Gaston, “Why does Hebrews 1:10-12 cite Psalm 102:25-27?“

a reading of Philippians 2:5-11

podcast 259 – Who is the one Creator? – Part 2

podcast 258 – Who is the one Creator? – Part 1

podcast 235 – The Case Against Preexistence

Restitutio podcast 612 Colossians 1.16: Old Creation or New Creation? (Sean Finnegan)

Trinity to One God: Dr. Dale Tuggy’s Journey

“Trinty,” Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

“Samuel Clarke,” Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

This week’s thinking music is “Crunch” by Beat Mekanik.

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