What is truth? How do our perceptions shape reality—and how do we make sense of the world when facts, narratives, and beliefs collide? In this expansive, unscripted conversation, Artie and Brian Jolley return for a thought-provoking dialogue that blends philosophy, politics, science, and human curiosity.

Together, they explore the boundaries of objective truth, how magnetism might help turtles and cattle navigate, and the distortions built into our sensory experience of reality. They challenge political narratives from all sides, dissect the limits of institutional trust, and ask how to remain intellectually honest in a world saturated with information—and misinformation.

From simulation theory and neuroscience to international politics and media skepticism, this episode dives deep without ever losing its grounding in respectful, idea-driven discourse.

Topics explored:
• Can anything be truly objective?
• Animal magnetism and the mysteries of perception
• Trump, Russia, media spin, and political skepticism
• How labels and narratives limit understanding
• Epistemology, pattern recognition, and neurodivergence
• Staying open-minded without losing your principles

If you enjoy:
Long-form conversation, critical thinking, political nuance, or just wondering how turtles know where they’re going—you’re in the right place.