In this episode im joined by Clayton Hines, a name synonymous with uncompromising vision in the world of drum and bass. In an open and honest conversation we talked through legacy, disruption, and what it truly means to shape a movement. From the early days of Trouble on Vinyl to the iconic Hardware nights at The End, Clayton shares raw insight into the mindset that made Renegade Hardware a powerhouse known not just for its heavyweight releases but its renegade approach to literally everything it does. This conversation goes deep into his no filter approach to A&R, the label's ruthless commitment to quality, and why, even years after all these years, the Renegade Hardware brand is still so powerful.