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When Law Schools Can't Deliver (Ep. 527)

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Ben and Nathan dig into the ABA’s decision to put Cooley Law School on probation and the broader issue of weak oversight in legal education. They also cover addenda for multiple LSAT scores, early acceptances, and retaking for better scholarships.

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0:28 - Cooley Law on Probation by the ABA

Ben and Nathan react to the news that Cooley Law has been placed on probation by the American Bar Association for failing to meet bar passage standards. They question why the ABA continues to allow such programs to operate and highlight the risks for students who enroll in them.

24:45 - Addenda for LSAT retakes

Demon student Sam asks about Michigan Law’s recommendation that applicants submit an addendum if they’ve taken the LSAT three or more times. Nathan advises against volunteering information that could hurt an application and emphasizes that only your highest score matters.

37:43 - Early Application Is Key

A Redditor reports being admitted to the University of Hawaii with a generous scholarship. Ben and Nathan use the example to remind applicants that applying early gives them the best shot at admissions and scholarships.

57:09 - Retaking a 173 for Scholarships

Demon student Jack scored a 173 and wonders whether it’s worth retaking. Ben and Nathan say yes, especially if he’s targeting top schools. They advise him to wait another cycle and keep studying to become a stronger, more competitive applicant.

1:06:20 - UGA Law Lets Undergrads Skip the LSAT

The University of Georgia Law School now allows its undergraduates to apply using ACT or SAT scores instead of the LSAT. Nathan argues that this limits students to only UGA Law and weakens their scholarship leverage. Ben adds that the policy ultimately does a disservice to the students.

1:12:41 - Georgetown Law Group Interview

Demon student Jeremiah describes a Georgetown group interview where participants analyzed a hypothetical applicant. Ben and Nathan break down how to handle this kind of exercise: play along with the scenario, and show reasonable judgment.

1:20:11 - Personal Statement Gong Show

Casey takes the stage on the Personal Statement Gong Show, chasing Sophia’s record of 34 lines.

1:38:17 - Word of the Week: Dispositive

“The panel directed counsel to focus oral argument on the dispositive issues.”
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Ben and Nathan dig into the ABA’s decision to put Cooley Law School on probation and the broader issue of weak oversight in legal education. They also cover addenda for multiple LSAT scores, early acceptances, and retaking for better scholarships.

⁠Study with our Free Plan⁠

⁠Download our iOS app⁠

Watch Episode 527 on YouTube

0:28 - Cooley Law on Probation by the ABA

Ben and Nathan react to the news that Cooley Law has been placed on probation by the American Bar Association for failing to meet bar passage standards. They question why the ABA continues to allow such programs to operate and highlight the risks for students who enroll in them.

24:45 - Addenda for LSAT retakes

Demon student Sam asks about Michigan Law’s recommendation that applicants submit an addendum if they’ve taken the LSAT three or more times. Nathan advises against volunteering information that could hurt an application and emphasizes that only your highest score matters.

37:43 - Early Application Is Key

A Redditor reports being admitted to the University of Hawaii with a generous scholarship. Ben and Nathan use the example to remind applicants that applying early gives them the best shot at admissions and scholarships.

57:09 - Retaking a 173 for Scholarships

Demon student Jack scored a 173 and wonders whether it’s worth retaking. Ben and Nathan say yes, especially if he’s targeting top schools. They advise him to wait another cycle and keep studying to become a stronger, more competitive applicant.

1:06:20 - UGA Law Lets Undergrads Skip the LSAT

The University of Georgia Law School now allows its undergraduates to apply using ACT or SAT scores instead of the LSAT. Nathan argues that this limits students to only UGA Law and weakens their scholarship leverage. Ben adds that the policy ultimately does a disservice to the students.

1:12:41 - Georgetown Law Group Interview

Demon student Jeremiah describes a Georgetown group interview where participants analyzed a hypothetical applicant. Ben and Nathan break down how to handle this kind of exercise: play along with the scenario, and show reasonable judgment.

1:20:11 - Personal Statement Gong Show

Casey takes the stage on the Personal Statement Gong Show, chasing Sophia’s record of 34 lines.

1:38:17 - Word of the Week: Dispositive

“The panel directed counsel to focus oral argument on the dispositive issues.”
Get caught up with our ⁠Word of the Week⁠⁠ library.

  continue reading

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