In this episode, Karen Koehler starts with a client who was permanently disfigured and how fast the defense tried to dig through every corner of her life. From medical records to private history, nothing feels off-limits in discovery. Karen and Mo Hamoudi talk about how invasive that process can be, why lawyers need to know everything (even the parts that hurt to say out loud), and how to build trust with a total stranger when the stakes are personal.

They get into what it means to “cross the moat,” how lawyers can earn their way inside a client’s world without crossing boundaries, and why most of what defense lawyers dig up never even makes it to trial. Karen brings her Spock-level “mind-meld,” Mo brings bartender-level empathy, and Mike Todd reminds everyone that giving up control is what makes trust so hard in the first place.

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Hosted by Karen Koehler and Mo Hamoudi, trial lawyers at Stritmatter Law, a nationally recognized plaintiff personal injury and civil rights law firm based in Washington State.

Produced by Mike Todd, Audio & Video Engineer, and Kassie Slugić, Executive Producer.

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