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Episode Highlights

In this episode, Adam welcomes dancer, choreographer, and creative polymath Anthony Johns. From childhood tap shoes in Portsmouth to BBC studios, West End stages, Pinewood sets, and arena-scale royal spectaculars, Anthony’s life traces six decades of British variety at its most glittering and gritty. He shares priceless lessons from mentors, the power of ballet as the “maths and English” of dance, and the old-school craft of performing to the whole house - not the mirror.

Key Discussion Points

• Origins & Early Training: Growing up with two sisters who danced; a childhood accident, shyness, and finding confidence through classes. Tap at five, jazz soon after, and secretly at first - ballet, the technical foundation he calls essential “poise, posture, and strength.”
• First Stage Sparks: Local festivals, “Hello, Dolly!” solos, and a family who took him to everything from lavish musicals to the Royal Ballet; memories of Nureyev, Antoinette Sibley, and Anthony Dowell.
• West End Breakthrough: Cast at 13 in Gypsy (1973) with Angela Lansbury and Bonnie Langford at the Piccadilly Theatre; the realities of child-performer licenses, nightly commutes from Epsom, and matron Mrs Langford’s mantra: scan the audience and sparkle.
• The Performer’s Gaze: Why mirrors can stunt stagecraft; learning routines faster without them; the difference between today’s mirror-trained focus and the old pros who “bring you in.”
• Film Set Education: Bugsy Malone at Pinewood custard-pie chaos, backstage legends (hello, Chitty’s Child Catcher cage), and candid on-set memories of Jodie Foster and fellow young stars.
• TV & The Young Generation: Joining the BBC’s Young Generation at 16; working on New Year spectaculars with Dame Vera Lynn, Shirley Bassey, Petula Clark, and more; later presenting children’s TV segments and choreographing for BBC training shoots.
• Choreography Philosophy: Let instinct lead often the first idea to music is the truest; concept-driven work and designing the whole picture (movement, costumes, mood).
• “Forbidden Blackpool”: A bold, pre-burlesque, Moulin-Rouge-tinted concept show built around a keyhole motif; role reversal with boys in feathers, girls in suits; Anthony’s own costume designs and nightclub-cabaret vibe inside a large theatre.
• Defining Variety: From comics and dancers to sopranos and specialty acts “educational but entertaining” and how Sunday night Light Entertainment once shaped family rhythm.
• Dougie Squires & 43 Years of Life and Work: Meeting at 18; a partnership that spanned TV series, stage tours, and later the Royal pageants.
• Royal Spectacles: From the Queen’s 40th at Earl’s Court (Cameron-scale stages, thousands of horses, and Salad Days for Her Majesty) to Windsor galas with Helen Mirren and Tom Cruise; priceless Evelyn Laye waving anecdote.
• The Working Life: Why long runs weren’t for him after rapid-turnover TV; keeping the mind alive with new routines; passion over mortgage-logic.
• Advice to Young Performers: Perform from the heart, cultivate generosity, learn every backstage craft you can (even sewing a zipper), and remember your job is to make the star and the audience shine.
• Generation Dance: The reunion that became a community monthly class at Dance Attic bringing together alumni aged 30 to 78; friendship, fitness, and the enduring power of dance.

The Sugar Babies Slap Routine:

Anthony teaches Adam a seated percussion-dance sequence inspired by the vaudeville musical Sugar Babies, a crisp pattern of shoulders → thighs → “headache” (forehead) → down, with crossing variations and a satisfying rhythmic build. It’s simple, silly, and seriously catchy when done in a line.

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🎵 Original title music written by Peter O'Donnell and produced by Chris Burgess.

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