The Hidden Key to Innovation: Timing
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What does it take to deliver innovation at just the right moment? In this episode of The Tech Trek, Amir sits down with Eric Hoffert, CTO at Kargo and former video leader at Apple and Spotify, to unpack the art and science of innovation timing. From building QuickTime at Apple to launching video at Spotify a decade before the market caught up, Eric shares stories that blend conviction, timing, and deep tech insight. This episode is a must-listen for anyone thinking about where AI, video, and advertising are headed—and how to lead through the chaos.
Key Takeaways:
Innovation is a blend of vision, timing, and execution—being first doesn’t matter if the world isn’t ready.
AI is shifting us from an attention economy to an intention economy, transforming how video content and advertising are personalized.
The best tech products often emerge from the intersection of diverse disciplines, creative conviction, and platform thinking.
Timing mistakes are common—even industry giants miss the mark by years—but conviction keeps the momentum alive.
Future video experiences will be radically personal, possibly generated in real time based on your preferences.
Timestamped Highlights:
00:58 — What Kargo does and why art + technology is their core advantage
02:04 — The behind-the-scenes story of inventing QuickTime at Apple
12:50 — Why Spotify’s video ambitions in 2011 were 15 years ahead of their time
17:33 — Can advertising become seamless and actually helpful? The AI-powered opportunity
22:23 — Scene-level targeting and privacy-preserving personalization in video
26:49 — Eric’s 3 keys to innovating at the right time: see around corners, surf the wave, move fast
Quote of the Episode:
“We’re shifting from an attention economy to an intention economy—where you’re in the driver’s seat of what you watch, and how it's monetized.”
Call to Action:
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