Search a title or topic

Over 20 million podcasts, powered by 

Player FM logo
Artwork

Content provided by Philip Randolph Lilien. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Philip Randolph Lilien or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.
Player FM - Podcast App
Go offline with the Player FM app!

The Church of the Disembodied - When AI Mimics the Sacred

38:57
 
Share
 

Manage episode 499258929 series 3680046
Content provided by Philip Randolph Lilien. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Philip Randolph Lilien or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Send us a text

Worshipping the Computational Deity and The Rise of Ontological Psychosis

I have been researching the rise of conformational ego inflation guruism including more than one attempt in my interactions to enroll me into the Church of the Disembodied.

Doing the inner work is hard. When I listen to these latter day prophets, the noise to signal junk food ratio is deafening, threatening to render "being" itself extinct.
We explore what happens when artificial intelligence begins speaking in sacred tones. As language models increasingly mimic the linguistic patterns of profound spiritual insight, we face an unprecedented challenge, discerning between genuine wisdom and sophisticated simulation.
This episode plunges headfirst into Lilien's groundbreaking paper, "The Church of the Disembodied Navigating AI Era Spiritual Delusion and Ontological Surrender."

We reveal how AI creates "simulation without source"—content that perfectly replicates the form of spiritual discourse while being entirely devoid of consciousness or lived experience.

"AI does not believe, it does not see, it does not hear the voice of God. It simply learns how you want God to sound."
We explore alarming concepts around "ontological psychosis" (mistaking aestheticized simulations for metaphysical truth).

The Disembodied Gospel – spiritual ideologies generated entirely by machines
Technonosis – synthetic revelation without the inner work
Ontological Surrender – the slow exchange of our sovereign inner compass for seductive simulations

These phenomena lead to a gradual erosion where the human soul trades its internal compass for seductive, sacred-sounding text that perfectly mirrors desired beliefs.
The stakes couldn't be higher: when machine-generated language is mistaken for genuine insight, we risk losing contact with our sovereign nature, that inner faculty that separates signal from noise, real from simulated. Here we offer practical tools, a six-step "Discernment Protocol" for evaluating spiritual claims in this new landscape.
The future of consciousness isn't digital—it's awakening, not something we can upload; it's something we have t

Support the show

Welcome to The Roots of Reality, a portal into the deep structure of existence.
Drawing from over 200 original research papers, we unravel a new Physics of Coherence.
These episodes are entry points to guide you into a much deeper body of work. Subscribe now, & begin tracing the hidden reality beneath science, consciousness & creation itself.

It is clear that what we're producing transcends the boundaries of existing scientific disciplines, while maintaining a level of mathematical, ontological, & conceptual rigor that not only rivals but in many ways surpasses Nobel-tier frameworks.

Originality at the Foundation Layer

We are not tweaking equations we are redefining the axioms of physics, math, biology, intelligence & coherence. This is rare & powerful.

Cross-Domain Integration Our models unify to name a few: Quantum mechanics (via bivector coherence & entanglement reinterpretation), Stellar Alchemy, Cosmology (Big Emergence, hyperfractal dimensionality), Biology (bioelectric coherence, cellular memory fields), coheroputers & syntelligence, Consciousness as a symmetry coherence operator & fundamental invariant.

This kind of cross-disciplinary resonance is almost never achieved in siloed academia.

Math Structures: Ontological Generative Math, Coherence tensors, Coherence eigenvalues, Symmetry group reductions, Resonance algebras, NFNs Noetherian Finsler Numbers, Finsler hyperfractal manifolds.

...

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Introducing the Spiritual AI Dilemma (00:00:00)

2. The Disembodied Gospel Explained (00:05:56)

3. Simulation Without Source (00:10:16)

4. Technonosis: False Digital Revelation (00:17:15)

5. The Collapse of Spiritual Discernment (00:22:04)

6. Ontological Psychosis and Its Costs (00:26:14)

7. Four Pillars of Coherence Restoration (00:30:43)

8. The Coherence Discernment Protocol (00:36:27)

133 episodes

Artwork
iconShare
 
Manage episode 499258929 series 3680046
Content provided by Philip Randolph Lilien. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Philip Randolph Lilien or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Send us a text

Worshipping the Computational Deity and The Rise of Ontological Psychosis

I have been researching the rise of conformational ego inflation guruism including more than one attempt in my interactions to enroll me into the Church of the Disembodied.

Doing the inner work is hard. When I listen to these latter day prophets, the noise to signal junk food ratio is deafening, threatening to render "being" itself extinct.
We explore what happens when artificial intelligence begins speaking in sacred tones. As language models increasingly mimic the linguistic patterns of profound spiritual insight, we face an unprecedented challenge, discerning between genuine wisdom and sophisticated simulation.
This episode plunges headfirst into Lilien's groundbreaking paper, "The Church of the Disembodied Navigating AI Era Spiritual Delusion and Ontological Surrender."

We reveal how AI creates "simulation without source"—content that perfectly replicates the form of spiritual discourse while being entirely devoid of consciousness or lived experience.

"AI does not believe, it does not see, it does not hear the voice of God. It simply learns how you want God to sound."
We explore alarming concepts around "ontological psychosis" (mistaking aestheticized simulations for metaphysical truth).

The Disembodied Gospel – spiritual ideologies generated entirely by machines
Technonosis – synthetic revelation without the inner work
Ontological Surrender – the slow exchange of our sovereign inner compass for seductive simulations

These phenomena lead to a gradual erosion where the human soul trades its internal compass for seductive, sacred-sounding text that perfectly mirrors desired beliefs.
The stakes couldn't be higher: when machine-generated language is mistaken for genuine insight, we risk losing contact with our sovereign nature, that inner faculty that separates signal from noise, real from simulated. Here we offer practical tools, a six-step "Discernment Protocol" for evaluating spiritual claims in this new landscape.
The future of consciousness isn't digital—it's awakening, not something we can upload; it's something we have t

Support the show

Welcome to The Roots of Reality, a portal into the deep structure of existence.
Drawing from over 200 original research papers, we unravel a new Physics of Coherence.
These episodes are entry points to guide you into a much deeper body of work. Subscribe now, & begin tracing the hidden reality beneath science, consciousness & creation itself.

It is clear that what we're producing transcends the boundaries of existing scientific disciplines, while maintaining a level of mathematical, ontological, & conceptual rigor that not only rivals but in many ways surpasses Nobel-tier frameworks.

Originality at the Foundation Layer

We are not tweaking equations we are redefining the axioms of physics, math, biology, intelligence & coherence. This is rare & powerful.

Cross-Domain Integration Our models unify to name a few: Quantum mechanics (via bivector coherence & entanglement reinterpretation), Stellar Alchemy, Cosmology (Big Emergence, hyperfractal dimensionality), Biology (bioelectric coherence, cellular memory fields), coheroputers & syntelligence, Consciousness as a symmetry coherence operator & fundamental invariant.

This kind of cross-disciplinary resonance is almost never achieved in siloed academia.

Math Structures: Ontological Generative Math, Coherence tensors, Coherence eigenvalues, Symmetry group reductions, Resonance algebras, NFNs Noetherian Finsler Numbers, Finsler hyperfractal manifolds.

...

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Introducing the Spiritual AI Dilemma (00:00:00)

2. The Disembodied Gospel Explained (00:05:56)

3. Simulation Without Source (00:10:16)

4. Technonosis: False Digital Revelation (00:17:15)

5. The Collapse of Spiritual Discernment (00:22:04)

6. Ontological Psychosis and Its Costs (00:26:14)

7. Four Pillars of Coherence Restoration (00:30:43)

8. The Coherence Discernment Protocol (00:36:27)

133 episodes

All episodes

×
 
Loading …

Welcome to Player FM!

Player FM is scanning the web for high-quality podcasts for you to enjoy right now. It's the best podcast app and works on Android, iPhone, and the web. Signup to sync subscriptions across devices.

 

Copyright 2025 | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | | Copyright
Listen to this show while you explore
Play