Retic VS Black Dragon | Jong Chiu of JC Reptiles | The Retic Lounge #136

In this episode, Nathan sits down with Jong Chiu of [@jc_reptiles](https://www.instagram.com/jc_reptiles) for a deep dive into Jong's reptile journey. After moving from the Philippines to the United States, Jong found his way back into the reptile hobby, eventually specializing in two powerhouse species: Reticulated Pythons and Black Dragons (Melanistic Water Monitors).

Nathan and Jong break down the care requirements, challenges, and rewarding aspects of working with both species. They also dive into what fascinates Jong about each animal and have a fun, thoughtful discussion comparing Retics and Black Dragons to figure out which might be the most ideal reptile to keep depending on the keeper’s goals.

If you love big reptiles and want insight from someone experienced with two of the most iconic species in the hobby, you won’t want to miss this one.

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