In this engaging conversation, Jeff and DR Dave Lorenz explore the world of physical therapy, discussing Dave's personal journey into the field, the dynamics of healthcare, the impact of AI, and the importance of empathy in patient care. They delve into the differences between physical therapy and chiropractic care, the challenges of student debt in healthcare education, and the future of direct access to physical therapy. The discussion highlights the need for collaboration among healthcare professionals and the ongoing demand for medical expertise in an evolving landscape.