In this episode, MLI Senior Fellow Casey Babb sits down with Loay Alshareef – a Saudi intellectual, historian, and prominent thought leader who has dedicated his career to promoting interfaith dialogue and mutual understanding across the Middle East. Loay challenges the narratives that dominate Western discourse—from the myth of Israel as a colonial enterprise to the deliberate misuse of the term “Islamophobia” to shield extremists from legitimate criticism. He draws a critical distinction between anti-Muslim bigotry, and the need to confront the very real threat posed by radical ideologies cloaked in religious legitimacy. This episode is a call to courage and discernment. It’s a warning—delivered with wisdom, grace, and unwavering conviction—from someone who knows exactly what is at stake.