TPToA Podcast 398 – Mickey 17

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Mickey 17

The novel this film was based on; Mickey 7 was being written by Edward Ashton, at almost exactly same time as the film back in 2021. Director Bong Joon Ho saw an opportunity and ran with it to create something pertinent, meaningful and as always, very weird… What remains then to answer is why the film version has solidly 10 more Mickeys!? Why do we need SO many more Mickeys?

Robert Pattinson is Mickey 1-17 and in fact Mickey 18 as well… and his life…lives are the subject of this funny, poignant and occasionally silly film Science Fiction film.

The whole team is in here, with Jill 41, Peta 99, Dion X and Quinny -3. With all their accumulated knowledge you’d hope they could say something intelligent here. And you would be right!

Synopsis

Adapted from the novel Mickey7 by Edward Ashton, this stars Robert Pattinson as an “expendable” – a disposable crew member on a space mission, selected for dangerous tasks because he can be renewed if his body dies, with his memories largely intact. With one regeneration, though, things go very wrong.

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Transcript

Dion

Hello and welcome to the periodic table of awesome. On 25.

Quinny

What number I?

Dion

Yeah, what? What number do you want to be?

Peta

Picked a random one.

Dion

Yeah, yeah. Peter, one there, you. I’m going to be Dion, 25, and you go introduce yourselves tonight because I’m lazy.

Speaker

Oh wow. So there we go. Yeah. Yep, Yep.

Dion

Oh, there. Great.

Quinny

It’s just what number are you?

Jill

Me. I’m. I’m Jill 40. Because I die a little each year.

Dion

Well, it is.

Quinny

Jesus Christ.

Dion

It is kind of dark. OK 20. Number are you up to?

Quinny

-3.

Speaker

What exactly?

Quinny

Don’t understand it. Does let.

Dion

Me just like 3 multiple. How many? Thank you.

Peta

I mean, based on Jill’s logic, I think I’m about 99.

Dion

Peter, 99, again Jill, 41, Dion, 25, and quinny -3 to be * ****.

Quinny

No, I just because that’s where I’m from. From. It’s always -3 in liaweni. Protect the minion gag for you anyway.

Speaker

Is it?

Quinny

Not from my area. Sorry, I’m not, but it’s still there’s three Tasmanians who listen to this. Thought that was very funny.

Dion

Yeah, well, it is about a cold, merciless planet full of weird, weird, weird. Creatures kind of like.

Jill

The spoiler alert. Our numbers are our. For later.

Dion

Oh wow.

Quinny

Serious thinking now.

Speaker 2

Oh.

Dion

How hateful. Yeah. Well, what are we doing? Someone explain to me what’s what’s this movie that we’re talking about? What? What? What is this?

Speaker 2

You’re. You’re so. You’re fine, man. Hey, Mickey. Hey, Mickey.

Dion

And it’s not the.

Jill

Oh, Mickey, say.

Peta

Are you gonna do that 17 Times Now? Like that’ll take a while, yeah.

Dion

I’m. I’m I’m I’m just warning you. Will be a. It’s a very Tony Basil heavy show tonight.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah. You’re not getting away from that song.

Dion

At any opportunity? No.

Jill

So it’s a docu biopic about the making of the video clip for hey Nikki.

Quinny

Oh my God, this is this is. There’s going to be so much digging in this.

Dion

A ducky diet.

Quinny

Going to be so full of meaning, no. We’re. The new Bong Joon Ho film Mickey 17, which is based on a book which is called Mickey’s 7. Why there’s an extra 10 in the film, I don’t really know.

Dion

Because they gave them, they gave them more opportunity to come up with interesting.

Jill

Sound of snappier? Who knows?

Dion

And disgusting deaths for their lead character, Robert Pattinsky.

Peta

I mean my.

Jill

Having instructed staff.

Peta

Friend jokes was much better than that.

Dion

Well. Fair. I mean I am D on 25. Comedy gets worse every.

Peta

4 diminishing returns has really come down hard on.

Dion

Yes, yes it has.

Quinny

That’s why I’m -3 because I’m still mint.

Jill

They keep forgetting to upload the memories back to Dion when he gets reprinted. He keeps doing the same analogies.

Dion

Over and over again. And they’re. They just filled it in with AI garbage.

Peta

****.

Quinny

You know, that’s something liked about. This is the idea that like, yeah, there are at least two or three versions where they’ve reprinted Mickey and they haven’t perhaps printed him, right. Like, you know, they’ve accidentally knocked out a cable on one of the sites. One of the printings. Like maybe, maybe he’s not exactly the same as the Mickey that started.

Dion

We’ll get there. I mean, you know, we’ve still got a lot of of things to do. Doing Mickey 17, which we got to go and see. It last week.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

But you did.

Quinny

And Peter and I went. Saw it on Sunday.

Dion

Oh wow.

Peta

Awesome fresh.

Dion

Technically, you know, but I start my week on a Monday, so. You know, OK. But it came out. Yeah, we’ve been seeing it.

Jill

So we all came out last week, yes.

Dion

Yeah, yeah. The important part is the homework was done. All did the homework. Yes, we’ve all watched. It’s out. You can go and see it too.

Quinny

Yes, and what a strange little film it is. I’m fascinated to know where you all at with Bong Joon Ho.

Jill

Hated snow, piercer loved parasite.

Quinny

Right.

Jill

Didn’t watch opja because. Animals.

Quinny

Yeah.

Jill

We’re ordering animals like I like bacon.

Dion

Did you watch parasite in between seeing Mickey 17 and now?

Jill

I maybe watched it last night.

Dion

Good because yeah.

Jill

Because I hadn’t done. And for some weird reason, I thought it was based on a horror manga, but it’s completely not. No, there’s a horror maker called Parasite, and I thought that’s what the movie was about and the poster has, like, everyone with redacted eyes.

Speaker

Jill

Thought it was like some weird horror film, but.

Dion

Sure. I mean.

Jill

It’s not.

Dion

I’m just glad because, like when Jill and I went into last week, it’s like, oh, I haven’t seen parasite now. Like what? Get get the E to a nunnery.

Quinny

Sorry, I haven’t seen parasite either.

Jill

Oh well, it’s on Netflix. You should have watched it last night.

Quinny

Sorry.

Peta

Before you ask that question. Yeah, exactly.

Dion

You haven’t even seen the Sound of Music.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

Well, come on, -3.

Quinny

Do you want to get all like cool with Bong Joon Ho? I’ve been watching him since 2003.

Jill

What was your first?

Quinny

Movie memories of Murder that came out in 2003 and.

Speaker 2

It was.

Quinny

Yeah. I think one of his first films, one of his first big successful. Sorry, his first film that I can see is barking dogs never bite, which I’ve never seen. But yeah, we’ve done a pretty good line on Director Bong. We’ve watched so back in before the times back before periodic table of awesome, there was another podcast called The Tube. And as a part of that, one of the people really loved Korean film and so. Surprisingly, a lot more Bong Joon Ho than I ever thought I. Going to, there you go. So yeah, we’ve watched memories of murder and mother and the host. And then, yeah, a few years later, he kind of.

Dion

Well.

Quinny

We didn’t see that much for him for a while, and then Octura and Snowpiercer and all that sort of stuff came out. So yes, I’ve watched a lot of bond drama. Like his stuff.

Dion

So you’re in, you’re in an aficiado Ben Quinney, right?

Quinny

The 100’s really great. Yes, yes.

Dion

Peter, have you seen many Bong Joon Joon Ho films?

Speaker

Yes.

Peta

I mean parasite. Maybe Snowpiercer and then I erase it from my memory? Not sure.

Dion

Sure. Yeah, don’t get. It’s not the flicks television show.

Peta

I’m I’m I’m I’m neutral. I’m neutral on the issue.

Dion

Neutral run. I don’t have.

Quinny

So you you really hated to know Pierce. Jill.

Jill

Yeah, I I. Look, it’s been so long since I’ve watched. I don’t remember why I hated it, but it just. Didn’t work for me.

Dion

Is that because Chris Evans wasn’t doing good things in that film?

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

I think he was. Fine in the. I don’t think I I didn’t enjoy the premise.

Speaker

Dion

Right, not enough. Shots in that film for Chris Evans.

Jill

Don’t reduce me to my face level there.

Speaker

Ariana.

Dion

Lizard brain, Jill.

Jill

The silent green of it all.

Dion

Right, right. Fair enough it. It was actually supposed to be more. Do you remember that scene in snipers? And it’s been out for a while, so I’m going to say it anyway. When they opened it up and it was just bugs being all crushed up. It was actually supposed to be the people in from the back of the Karen.

Jill

Yeah. No, I assumed that.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah, I was figured that that was kind of where they were going.

Dion

But it was like, oh man, that’s terrible.

Quinny

That idea.

Jill

Yeah, because there. I’m pretty sure there was a line in it where he talked about eating. Babies.

Dion

Oh yeah, definitely was. Look, Peter leday.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah.

Jill

PETA has a rice to for very particular reason.

Peta

Yeah, I’m starting to think maybe I. Haven’t seen it.

Speaker

Oh.

Quinny

Yeah, you don’t train lots of snows.

Peta

You are not living much.

Dion

They don’t actually eat a baby on screen. They just talked about it as a as a trauma. It’s fine.

Peta

There are weird amount of films that actually take place on trains, so like I genuinely can’t remember. If it was the ones I’ve seen.

Speaker

This.

Quinny

There’s also the confusion that there’s a a series that ran for how many seasons? There’s. Beers as well.

Dion

It’s still going.

Speaker 4

Hang on, hang on, hang on.

Quinny

Is it still for cancellation?

Speaker 1

It’s still going.

Jill

After 2.

Dion

I thought it was like on Series 5. I don’t know.

Quinny

I think it got cancelled and then got re picked up.

Dion

It. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Quinny

And I’m just now looking it up. Because like I watched a little bit of it, mostly because I really liked David Diggs. I think he’s a ******* great actor, but yeah, didn’t get into the show as much, even though it has Jennifer Connelly in it. I’m I’m all about her. Four Seasons. Yeah. *** ****.

Dion

Yeah, that’s what I was talking about. Was like, let’s go.

Jill

How do we realize it? Keep going.

Dion

Yeah, the last season just came out last year.

Jill

There you go.

Dion

Anyway, that’s what I’m talking about. We’re talking about Miki 17. Apart from that, I haven’t like he’s he’s a little thing. Watched maybe 10 minutes of. I just didn’t get around to it. And I’ve seen parasite and I saw the host which I thought was great and I totally do not remember seeing mother or the other one. Were talking about memories of murder, memories about.

Speaker

I have.

Jill

The Sandra 01.

Speaker

Oh.

Dion

No, it wasn’t the other one. What’s his name? Arnold.

Quinny

Oh, no, not you’re thinking of nothing.

Peta

Not the roseburn 1.

Quinny

Yeah, mother, with an exclamation mark as opposed to just mother.

Jill

Oh. No, that’s the Jennifer Lawrence one.

Quinny

Yeah.

Jill

No, not that. Wasn’t there, Sandra? Oh, this movie about a mother.

Peta

Maybe he’s like, oh gosh.

Dion

We’re getting very. We need to be talking about Nikki.

Speaker

Yes, Sir. Off topic.

Dion

Let’s talk about Mickey 17. First of all, we need to go all the way back to talk about Robert Pattinson in Twilight.

Speaker 2

Sorry Sir anyway.

Dion

Twilight was a series.

Jill

Look, I have no respect.

Peta

I’ve been going to go all the way back.

Jill

I have, in retrospect, an argument that Robert Pattinson was doing genius acting in twilight because there was a book that was not released at the time that was given to him that was called. Midnight sun. It’s it’s all of twilight from Edward’s perspective, where he is like a sociopath. And so I feel like he was playing twilight. Edward. As from the perspective of this book, and we just.

Speaker 1

Didn’t know it well, much like.

Dion

Large franchise lead male cast who get the role too early and then somewhat become pigeon holed. Robert Pattinson is giving the full Daniel Radcliffe.

Speaker

Yes.

Dion

By by having a go at just weird ****. Yes.

Peta

I mean that there is like, he’s my love of Robert Pattinson. Being weird is is really only slightly secondary to my love of Daniel Radcliffe being weird. So I’m always there for a ride.

Quinny

Pattinson hasn’t done like as much stripping and as much weird dancing as as Radcliffe. Radcliffe.

Dion

He also hasn’t. He also hasn’t played a dead body that moves around in the ocean with his flatulence.

Speaker

Has.

Quinny

True, that is true. He has played Batman, which many would say is similar.

Dion

Yes. Yeah.

Peta

I also feel like he lets the weird leak into his real life a lot more than Daniel does. Significantly more than down to the Dallas.

Speaker

Yes.

Peta

That’s fine.

Quinny

I do love those.

Peta

Is there an interesting interview?

Speaker

Thank you.

Quinny

They both came out of Harry Potter land. You know, both managed to escape the Goblet of fire.

Speaker

Sea drink.

Peta

Well.

Dion

Did he though?

Quinny

He’s referring to the franchise.

Peta

Do you know who he?

Jill

Was in seven films and one was in one, yeah.

Dion

Yes. And then there was that. The father of that. Like my boy, they’ve killed my boy. Do you remember this at all?

Quinny

I do. Yes, I was referring to the Goblet of fire as the franchise. As you know, the Harry Potter franchise, which is now a bit of a gobbledy.

Dion

Oh, OK, not the actual.

Quinny

Galous you know?

Speaker 4

Oh.

Quinny

You know, I was being literary.

Dion

Don’t worry, they’re. It so it all blow over.

Peta

It was the. Character for which that wouldn’t have worked.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

I’m trying so hard.

Dion

I know you. What is Mickey 17 about though?

Quinny

So here’s.

Dion

The thing all of segue into that.

Quinny

Right, what? Beautiful. What accent do you? Because there’s, there’s whatever the **** Mickey 17’s accent is.

Jill

Well, our Pats was doing a pittsburghian accent, apparently so.

Dion

Jill’s inside. That one.

Jill

Yeah.

Quinny

Wow, OK.

Dion

Did you want some background music there? Quinny. While you think about your accent.

Quinny

Yes, yes, you did accent time.

Dion

Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a famous song from Pittsburgh, this is the one that I’m going to be playing for everyone.

Quinny

I think it’s gonna be. Generic American with his weird ******* voice. All I’ve got no, sorry.

Speaker

Speaker 2

Nah, I’ll adapted from the novel Mickey 7 by Edward Ashton, this Robert Pattinson. Started as an expendable. Disposable crew member on a space mission.

Speaker

And.

Speaker 2

He’s selected for dangerous tasks because he can be renewed or reprinted or whatever. If his body dies with his memories largely intact.

Speaker

No.

Speaker 2

With one regeneration, though, things do go very wrong, and I meet #18, who’s * **** and turns out that things are not as smooth as smooth as all that.

Jill

Wow, that was on *****.

Speaker

Yes. It’s actually not bad.

Quinny

Well, we heard. Lot of him in the film.

Dion

Yeah, yeah, dear.

Quinny

Thanks I. I will take the compliment of it being either uncanny. Not bad.

Dion

I’m I’m unsure.

Peta

We have like, an entire emote for **** accent. Not. Is is quite confident.

Dion

Yeah, part of Kanga busted at like 3 **** accents and then just kind of went, oh, I think that’s all we know. Is actually not bad like I feel like I’m safe this. This is good.

Speaker

Not expecting.

Dion

Yeah.

Peta

I first saw the. For this. My first thought in like what? In the uncanny valley. Why does this look like the Robert Pattinson we got on? Like.

Speaker 2

This is this is not.

Speaker

Not.

Quinny

The real Robert Pattinson.

Dion

You know, there’s a bunch of scenes.

Peta

I’ve been having Tyler going. You said Robert Pattinson. Just somebody who looks like him. What is going on? I don’t know what they did with his hair makeup. Costuming to make him look just that little bit extra odd.

Quinny

Even they really played up the broken nose of it.

Peta

So now with the echo I’ve now also got Plains. Oh great. Really, lifting the audio game here.

Dion

Yeah, you’re right.

Quinny

We can’t hear the plane. Fine.

Speaker 2

We can only hear you.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

Yeah, I noticed for the first time more than. Like the his his nose. And like his, he looked like he had quite a significant broken nose a few times and I was like. He he definitely didn’t look as pretty as he has.

Dion

Well, you know.

Speaker

I thought he looked.

Dion

Great. Like I saw the trailer when it. Out. I had a lot of like Pep and Zing and energy, and it was a new thing. And I was like, oh, this is great. Then I saw the film and I’m like that trailer lied to me a little. It did not lie to me as much as the trailer for drive, which was not the exciting film that everyone thought it was going to be. But this one was was kind of like, oh, that looks like fun. Like, you know, kind of going. This is not. Well, it’s kind of a. Film, but it’s more of a there.

Peta

Are there are lots? Fun elements to the film, yeah.

Dion

Sure. But it’s not that.

Quinny

It’s not a fun film.

Peta

It’s fun to be had. Yeah, yeah.

Quinny

Yeah.

Peta

It is a comedy. We laughed.

Jill

It was. All the way through.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah, I laughed a lot.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

Oh, that’s. I mean this is. I also want to say like I enjoyed Mickey 17 from a perspective of Robert Pattinson’s physical comedy that I was not expecting. Because. That was the most unexpected and pleasant thing that came out because we’ve seen. Do you know his breeding teenage heartthrob years and now his action man Batman years? And now it’s like, Oh my God, it’s a very good physical comedian. ‘Cause he fully commits to the bit and I was like this is amazing. And this is all good.

Peta

But even as I wouldn’t call him action man for Batman, he’s more emotive at really.

Dion

Are you kidding? I think I think he beat people. I didn’t know because it was very dark and I couldn’t see anything actually happening. So and his face was never really there, but I believe that he was beating people up instead of giving his money to programs that could prevent wealth inequality anyway.

Peta

I’ve read the physical comedy. The physical comedy was great. I both laughed, but we were the only people in the cinema laughing at several points.

Quinny

Doesn’t mean that really concerned me.

Dion

Were you the only people in the cinema? At all.

Quinny

No, no, it’s ’cause I was thinking.

Peta

Space who?

Quinny

Yeah, there were quite a few times, especially when he’s being printed. Every time he. He. I laughed.

Speaker 2

Oh.

Dion

Yeah, I was laughing too, especially.

Jill

There’s a great gag because like the old days. Old inkjets? Go. And then, yeah.

Peta

Oh my God, none of the other people in the cinema had seen an inject printer.

Jill

Full of Gen. Z.

Peta

No, I just realised that we would probably be all. People there.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah. Nobody else had ever seen a printer got.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

I didn’t get the gag.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

It’s like the. It’s like it’s like people saying old films of someone’s using a typewriter and then like, why are they hitting it?

Quinny

Like, just slapping some sense in there.

Dion

It’s like you know. It’s like, oh, I like that. It was great, except why they keep hitting the like keyboard and I’m like I will. Yeah, I can’t explain this to you.

Quinny

Hmm. Yeah, look, I found it very funny. Like I think it’s got a really weird sense of humor. Like you know, and the sense of humor is just picked up on the whole printer gag now. Yeah. Like the humor is dark, but also like kind of borderline absurdist in a lot of cases. And it’s it’s actors in a lot of cases having a lot of fun playing things real big.

Dion

Yeah.

Quinny

But I liked it like the comedy there. There’s other parts about the film I didn’t get into, but the comedy I did find work, I mean.

Peta

You know, I love some absurd **** like.

Quinny

And and it had.

Dion

A lot of different kinds of comedy that was thrown in there because, I mean, I really think there was that little bit of absurdist comedy. The game from Robert Pattinson and then you had like the very scenery, eating comedy being thrown out there by Mark Ruffalo. I feel like Toni Collette was almost criminally underused because she was very. She’s a very funny woman.

Peta

I mean, it’s trying to. Colette, what are you doing? She’s very funny.

Jill

I think there’ll be an Oscar nomination for Mark Ruffalo’s veneers next.

Quinny

Yes, 100%.

Speaker 1

Peta

Mean. Yeah, but the fact that.

Jill

Season doing a lot of acting.

Peta

We’ll leave back that Toni Collette was playing the straightest role in the whole thing was absolutely criminal.

Quinny

Lead.

Speaker

Hmm.

Peta

I found Mark ruffal. Entirely unabashed, Trump. Umm to be kind of hilarious in this context like. Know what? He’s not hiding what he’s doing. It’s like, right. I don’t care. And also like I mean. There are kind of some things that happen in there. Like you really kind of like hit the jackpot when you shot this in terms of how relevant it has now become.

Quinny

Yeah.

Dion

I’m. I was just hoping for some sort of Elon Musk metaphor character to be in there and it would have just been perfectly like, yeah, the person in control of the ship on the mission that goes to start a new planet.

Quinny

Yeah.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

It would have been just icing on the cake, but they didn’t know they weren’t sooth Sayers.

Quinny

No. And they they. They got the, they got the religious creepy guy. Who was, you know, always doing the filming? Who? You know, probably a little JD advance, but you know. I mean, you can find parallels where you go looking for them, but in the end like it’s the idea of. A terrible dictator, who in this case has actually done the world a favor by taking a whole bunch of people off the planet. And.

Dion

Well, a bunch of religious fundamentalists who decided to follow the cult of personality into space to see life on a new land, which is because Earth is ******. No one’s been bothered to do anything about trying to save it, so everyone’s just leaving it. And then experiencing. Whole ideology of humanity running against alien life, which may not look similar to us but has its own complex narrative, and then being able to use that as a justification for. Cultural and societal change because people are getting trodden on.

Speaker

Mm.

Dion

That’s a lot of work.

Quinny

I do want to shout out to Elska Norga, who said that it’s the B arc, so referencing Hitchhiker’s guide to the Galaxy where they just put all of the telephone sanitisers and hairdressers and stuff onto the the B arc and sent them off into space first and said. Catch up with you.

Dion

OK, now for anyone younger than us watching this right now or listening to it. A phone sanitizer was someone who used to go around and clean handset. On public phone, booze and common use. Because that was necessary because people would put **** all over it. You would have to do that.

Peta

So for anyone younger than us that’s watching this, a public phone booth.

Quinny

You didn’t always have a phone in your pocket. Sometimes there was one that you had to walk.

Speaker

Yeah. Oh Gee.

Peta

I there was nothing subtle about what this film was saying. You know that sometimes I’m gonna get ****** about that. And sometimes I’m like. Faircl gets absurd. Comedic. It is saying what it’s saying. The Unsubtlety is part of the comedy in this. I was OK with that.

Quinny

Yeah. Yeah, I also like.

Dion

Did anyone else feel like the 137 minute runtime probably could have been a real tight 80 minute?

Peta

We have reached my complaints.

Speaker 1

Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no.

Quinny

Oh, I love that at least three of us are, like, and now we’re here because we wanted to talk about.

Jill

I don’t remember it feeling that long. I was just so. I I. Enjoying, like every moment of the movie, I would. The satire was hitting for me, I thought. Was really. The Robert Pattinson was doing an amazing. I liked all of the the side characters. Everyone had like great little character traits and personalities.

Quinny

I really like Robert Pattinson.

Jill

And character arcs. Like.

Quinny

Mariela Robin Pattinson.

Jill

He’s. Don’t put words in my mouth. I’m not a.

Speaker

Quinny

Really like Robert Pattinson though.

Dion

Which one?

Jill

Oh, like 17 times. Hilarious. Good. I did enjoy. I’d like to spoiler alert Mickey 18. I thought the the. Mickey, 18, was a bit of a. And I can’t liked it.

Peta

I don’t feel like they somehow managed to print Mickey 18 without his trauma.

Jill

Yeah, it was great.

Speaker

Well.

Quinny

It’s going.

Peta

That was the difference.

Dion

Back to a little bit earlier when we were talking about.

Quinny

What I said before.

Dion

The fact that the Mickey’s sometimes they weren’t people with the scientists weren’t paying attention or something went weird and they accidentally unplug something or did something else. I really like that as a as a quiet metaphor for why they were all slightly differe.

Jill

Mm.

Dion

And then, because we never see Mickey 18 actually getting printed out, I wonder what? What? What’s a? What’s a?

Jill

What went wrong?

Dion

Yeah. What was the? Did someone spill something on the? Did someone dislodge the? Yeah, yeah, did.

Jill

Power outage.

Dion

Did someone turn around and knock the brick out of the machine? It just didn’t like, didn’t print his ******* empathy. Shoved it back in its like, sure, off we go.

Quinny

But also it had happened. Because Mickey Fire apparently was a **** **** **** too.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

You’re like, yeah. Oh, OK.

Dion

Learning that in through the girlfriend and imagine like. You know. People who are in a relationship that might feel a bit stale, a stale might be alright to have a part, an intimate partner that just keeps getting printed out every now and again just get a new version. Sometimes you might like them and sometimes you.

Quinny

Might not.

Jill

I’d quite like the gag, which you found two of them, and.

Peta

I kind of really.

Jill

Like oh. Let’s take that box on to the fantasy list.

Peta

I kind. I really enjoyed how they played that element of the story in the end because it was actually like quite a.

Speaker

Hi.

Peta

A sweet little love story. Between her and the Mickey’s, and even that little thing was, I guess, saying something that was quite nice about. Human intimacy and the wholeness of love, I guess for another person or whatever version of them. You get that day. It can all be slightly different versions. Slightly different days, but I like that they kind of leaned into that quite heavily for her character and and what that meant for the plot. I thought it was quite sweet. But yeah. I was having a fun time as. I was like, I was like, this is a fun time. It could have been a fun 90 minute time. It didn’t need to be a fun two hours and 20 minutes, I don’t think. And it kind of feels felt like the plot kept plotting at some point, just to kind of like. I don’t know. Give it kind of like a blockbuster sci-fi feel instead of what it was, which was a Cesaro absurd comedy, and it could have said everything that it said just a little bit.

Jill

Oh, I just realised what it reminds me of. Reminds me of a Wes Anderson film. You know you have a weird cast of very quirky characters all doing bizarre and and funny things, and like the color palettes were interesting for each scene and.

Quinny

Yeah.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

Yeah, it wasn’t like as otterous as was Anderson, but like the quirkiness that you find in film. It’s like what I found prevalent in this movie.

Speaker

Hmm.

Jill

Back in my.

Quinny

Yeah.

Jill

I’m like, what’s this remind me of?

Quinny

Yeah, like it’s got the the not the necessarily the visual aesthetic like it doesn’t have that super bright thing, but it has a kind of, yeah, a quirkiness and a willful quirkiness.

Speaker

No.

Quinny

I’m. I’m totally with you, Pete, on that whole thing of like. There are there are sections that could have been cut back on. Or like there’s a dinner sequence.

Speaker

Oh.

Jill

Yeah.

Quinny

That I was like ******* this is this is hanging on a bit like really.

Peta

It was also like an entire character that seemed like she was going to be a big. And then she just completely disappeared for, like, the last half hour of the movie that I thought was really weird.

Jill

That’s.

Dion

But that’s because that introduced the Chekhov’s tardigrade. That they did at the same. How do we explain that? Yeah. What is it? Space tetegruates they seem to be like everywhere and fun. You know, by the end of. I like space.

Quinny

Just feel.

Speaker 1

Here we go.

Dion

Just feel like that. That was a whole movie on itself, like we’re following.

Speaker

Play.

Dion

Why are we now on the space tardigrades? This could have been the Mickey sequel, like Mickey 17 again.

Peta

No, I like the space tiger grades. Think that that was a.

Speaker

Key.

Peta

A key element, and I think the movie would have worked at all without the space tigers. But there was, like there probably more happened with the space tide of grades than necessarily needed to.

Quinny

Things things really extended out towards the end with the space data grades, and there was an awful lot of running around. Yeah.

Peta

Lots of space tile plates.

Jill

Yeah. I’m wondering if maybe there was another way we could have escalated the plot that didn’t revolve around the creatures.

Dion

Yeah, like you know, when you got to the Tartar tornado, I don’t know how to make that a thing. Wait, no, that sounds about tardigrade tornado. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jill

If we had maybe contained it to to Mickey’s storyline and character development, you know, with his run in with the the Loan Sharks and stuff. Yeah, we’re chasing him from the start. The film, and maybe wrapped it up that way. I don’t. ‘Cause we kind of we left that thread with Stephen Yoon’s character and then it.

Peta

Would have done the same things.

Jill

Didn’t really end up. Going anywhere with any kind of resolution for us?

Speaker

But then.

Dion

But then we wouldn’t have got the whole meat is murder thing and people need to stop consuming animals. You know, emotions in order to turn them into sources because.

Jill

I know that source.

Peta

We also like kind of like started a Nazi thread, but then we kind of left behind that I thought was going to become the plot.

Quinny

Yeah. Kind of about. They rocked up wearing Hugo Boss and I was like, OK.

Dion

I don’t think.

Jill

The the source thing was pushed hard enough as a character trait for Toni Collette.

Quinny

That was introduced very late.

Speaker

That was like.

Jill

Yeah, it was just kind of.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

Periphery.

Quinny

Like it’s a.

Peta

And then that.

Quinny

Funny line. And I love the concept. It’s like.

Peta

There’s like a scene at the end that’s kind of like, oh, what? Why was what? Why was that there like I?

Dion

Yeah.

Quinny

Love the concept of you know, the thing that separates us from the lower animals and stuff is our ability to use condiments. That’s ******* hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, but.

Dion

I mean, it could. It could have introduced it earlier as they were because we introduced by that revolves Trumpish character at the start going. It’s a cult of personality and she could have been selling sources on Earth.

Jill

Yes, it didn’t feel like it was a hard enough personality trait for her.

Dion

It it felt. I got a feeling of a lot of Christopher guest Ish kind of ensemble cast idea that was going around like we need these individuals that are good actors and we want them to create wild characters that are memorable because they’ve got a hook. But then it it was also. But we’re following one character. We need to be like that works when you’re following a lot of different explanations and you know, figuring out how weird it all is. And this one is like, no, this is about Mickey though. We always have. Keep coming back to Mickey. What about? You know, and it’s like cool. He. Or is he maybe just printed wrong, you know?

Peta

I mean, for me, it’s got a little bit of the Argyle to it as well where it’s kind of like starts off fun but then throws too many ideas at it towards the end.

Jill

Oh.

Dion

Wow. I mean, I thought it was way better than.

Peta

Way better than Argyle. And I was having much more fun when the extra ideas came in and was kind of willing to stay with it at that. But it does kind of have that kind of like, you know, feels like it kind of loses its focus a little bit halfway to the second act and is kind of throwing a lot. A lot at it. When the material and the performances and the concept were kind of funny enough to kind of actually. Simpler and and cleaner.

Quinny

I also thought it had a bit of the the Lord of the Rings about it too, that it had too many endings like oh, you know, we kind of got to a point where the we’d gotten to the the point where we’ve we’ve got a resolution.

Jill

Oh.

Peta

Yeah, did have a few moments.

Quinny

And then we’ve kind of explaining where people have ended up. Then there was another. And then there was another thing, and I and I was I was about to go. I’m about done guys. I don’t think I really need. A weird secondary flashback here or whatever I’m I would have been perfectly fine without that. Thanks. But yeah, like but we got it because Tony collected another scene.

Dion

But we got that anyway. Well, yeah, I.

Jill

But there was about like 2/3 of the way through the movie. Another flashback and I can’t remember what it was ’cause like at the start. You find out like, why Mickey and? I really forgotten Steve Minuchin’s character’s. Why they left? Earth. In like a flashback kind of perspective. And then you get like all of his like reminiscing about his earlier versions and how they all got to where they were now. Then there was another one. After the plot was progressing. Flashback.

Dion

I can’t remember what it was.

Peta

Childhood trauma. There was a shot of the magic.

Dion

Yes, that’s right, the show.

Peta

He gets.

Jill

Yeah. And I’m like, why did you put it?

Peta

Yeah.

Jill

Here, why didn’t you put it? All of the flashback. Because now we’ve kind of moved on. I don’t know why they.

Dion

Yeah. Which is the trauma is the trauma from the sound of the chains.

Jill

Did another one again if. Yeah, felt jarring.

Dion

Chains or double chains or I don’t? That was kind of weird with a speaker on it for some reason.

Quinny

Yeah. Yes.

Jill

Yeah, it just kind of came out of. I’m like, oh, we’re getting more back story. Like 2/3 of the way through the movie. Yeah, that didn’t make. To me.

Quinny

And and yeah, there were. Like, there was a sequence where they kind of. Back. To like the start of the film. Character you’re after was Timo. Like when Mickey’s down the crevasse and like you start the film with your cold open, then you go through a bit of an explanation. You catch back up to it and I thought I was like, Yep, cool. We don’t need to do the whole scene again. I think we can.

Speaker

Did it.

Dion

Is it? Is it just me or? Make it feel like a little bit like a telly movie. Like, I felt that this was that was a bit of a TV conceit because it’s only used once. You’re not jumping timelines if you’re going to start jumping timelines in something, you need to keep doing that.

Jill

Yeah.

Dion

You can’t just do it once and then be like, Oh yeah. See, that was funny, wasn’t it? Did this little jump thing. It’s like no. No, I want to. That. Progression because it’s funny enough.

Jill

Like that one week earlier.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah. And that’s how I got here.

Dion

Yeah, yeah. He may be wondering.

Quinny

How I.

Dion

Got here. No, I was. Just tell me how you. There. Yeah, yeah.

Jill

Anyway.

Speaker

Should we write it?

Jill

Do we have a clue?

Dion

Sure. I got a clip. I’ve got 2 clips. Is either. What is it Pennsylvanian? No Christopher Patterson.

Quinny

Yet Pennsylvania and Patterson.

Jill

Fitzpatrick, Ian.

Dion

Yeah, Pennsylvanian, which is Mickey 18, right? And Pittsburghy and Mickey having a little bit of a tie to date or I’ve got Mark Ruffalo eating everything around.

Quinny

All the scenery, all the scenery.

Speaker

All.

Jill

All good with either.

Dion

Look, I’ll, I’ll start. I had a fun time mostly, but it was more like, Oh yeah, this is kind of amusing and this is this is great. Had a couple of interesting ideas which I which I felt were really good conceit, not explored thoroughly enough to make you stop and think about it, but also, I’m just really happy. All of those people are now living on that planet. Millions of miles away from the earth. Even Mickey in the end, I’m just kind of like I’m actually happy he’s gone. But I am scared about the future society that will literally just if you have a debt, will track you down across a Galaxy just to make you pay. And that was the thing that scared me the most. Anyway, look 65 for me.

Speaker

Dion

Yeah, it’s, it’s not as bad as. People have complained about. Actually, quite entertaining.

Quinny

Right. OK. I’ll go next, because **** it, why not? Because I never do. Like it? I liked it a lot. It’s a fun, big visual story with lots of great design work. Like I think the the monsters or the monsters. The tardigrades are cute, but at the same time appropriately squishy and fun, like there’s a lot of good body horror and stuff. Of all the way through. And the idea is entertaining enough, and it explored pretty. I think Moon did it almost similar sort of thing, but on a very different style. Of multiple versions of the one person. But yeah, overstays it’s welcome. Like I I really enjoyed it, but would have enjoyed it a hell of a lot more if we trimmed you know, 20 to 30 minutes out of it. I don’t know where from, but I’ve got a few suggestions. So I’m going to give it 80 because I actually really enjoyed it.

Speaker

Skype.

Jill

Peter, you go me.

Peta

Yeah. OK, I. I also like I had enough. Had enough fun? I I had enough fun that even when I was kind of like meh. This is maybe too much of this brand of fun. It it didn’t make me too mad. Like I said, I mean the absurdism, the witness that that kind of does it for me. Like I’m all good with that ****. I think for me it was. Just the kind of like. Trying to do a bit too much with the big blockbusteriness and in the process of doing that didn’t do quite enough actually with the point the satire could have been making. In, in the kind of a more you know, simple and elegant way with with the concept that I had. Such a weird complaint about a movie. I have fun. Fun is good 78.

Speaker

Nice.

Jill

I I had a lot of fun as soon as I got out, I told my friends to go and watch it because I thought it was just so good. Yeah, there’s like a few things that. You know, could be improved and we all touched on that tonight. What was I going to say? I ****, I forgot what I was gonna say, but it doesn’t matter. I liked it.

Quinny

It’s OK. We’ll bring in Jill 2042.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

I need chill for.

Dion

And she’ll have the answer for us. Yes, and.

Jill

As well as the meaning of life. I’ll give it.

Quinny

Yeah.

Jill

Quinny

Nice. Wow.

Dion

I was. I was the lowest.

Peta

Yeah, I mean, 65 is pretty low for our standards down.

Speaker

By quite.

Speaker 1

No, it’s not.

Dion

It’s just what I feel at at the time.

Speaker

Yes, Sir, all.

Peta

No, it’s not. Of our routing systems are fickle and changeable, and based on how we. On the day.

Dion

Yeah, all reviews are. It doesn’t mean anything. You may say something.

Quinny

You absolutely love it.

Jill

And I mean like when I went in, my only experience of Bong Joon Ho was no PSA. So. Was like, I really don’t like.

Speaker

No.

Jill

Movie. But the trailer for this looked cool. So I. It’s. And then, yeah, it’s funny on my head. Was great.

Dion

And now you’ve seen parasite.

Jill

Yeah. I mean Mickey 17. Doesn’t by any means like blow your knickers off. But it was a lot of fun. And just like a little jaunt.

Dion

Sean.

Quinny

I do love that Bong Joon Ho has some thematic stuff that he’s clearly really into.

Dion

Really. Does he?

Peta

Like.

Quinny

I’d like to. About the. Class. Yeah. I’d like to talk about eating the. I’d like to talk about the rich eating the poor. I’d like to talk about, you know, people in power doing terrible things. I’m like, thank you.

Dion

Yeah, yeah.

Quinny

Work.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

Love your work.

Jill

Animal rights.

Dion

Yes, Speaking of that, do we want to have a look at Mark Ruffalo’s terrible society, or do we want to look at our pets? You know, acting against each other much like Lord of the Rings? Gollum. Smeagol thing. Go our. All right. We’ll go to this. This is this is the two Mickey’s having a chat. Hey, Mickey, there. So fun.

Speaker

Are you afraid to die?

Dion

Yeah.

Speaker 4

You’ve had plenty of times.

Speaker

What are you so scared of?

Speaker 4

Tell Mom I died. Born again? No. It felt like it was me continuing on. But now? Once I die. It’ll be over. For me. Help you living? You get what I mean. Back.

Speaker 2

I don’t like you.

Speaker

She’s such a little *****.

Speaker 4

But I’m you. I’m not you. I’m not going to live like you.

Speaker

I’m gonna kill you. Oh, no, you can’t do that to the Mickey.

Dion

Can’t kill yourself, you know.

Quinny

It in the bin Mickey.

Dion

I mean. Hang on, let’s, let’s.

Quinny

You cannot. If your Mickey was going in the kiln, would you get in the kiln with him? Get in the kiln.

Dion

Get in the kiln, Mickey. Sorry, that was. I’ve done a reference. I put the spoiler Lego up. This is. Now look, it’s an interesting for a film that’s full of ideas and and and things that it’s asking you to pay attention to. I feel like it didn’t pay attention enough to the more interesting. Things that are posited, which was, hey, they developed a technology where people could basically 3D print themselves. And the first thing that someone did with that was started committing crimes. That is. There is your elevator pitch to the world right now for a very interesting. We finally got enough technology to start 3D printing ourselves and the per the scientist who who discovered that or did that first? First thing they did was became a mass murderer. Like I’m down for this. You know, just going to commit crimes.

Jill

Not what I would have done, but.

Quinny

No. Yeah.

Dion

And then in this one, it puts out the thing of like, hey, you know what, if you kill yourself, is it murder or is it not really murder? You know it’s you also, if you have a threesome with yourself, is that just ************ or is it incest?

Speaker

I was like.

Quinny

Feels like.

Jill

You’re not actually related to yourself.

Quinny

No.

Dion

But you are yourself.

Speaker

So. Yeah.

Peta

From a genetics perspective.

Dion

Yeah, and and and if you if there’s slight variation between, does that make you?

Speaker

Like.

Jill

Can’t procreate with yourself?

Quinny

No, no, I mean, sorry.

Jill

There’s no danger.

Quinny

It’s just, it’s just really, really over the top ************. Well, you know, anyway, extreme ************.

Dion

Right.

Speaker 2

It.

Dion

All these questions are not answered and more in Mickey 17. It puts them out there and then just doesn’t answer them.

Quinny

I kind of like that though. Like. It’s just like, here’s a bunch of ethical and moral quandaries that we’re going to let you Mull over, but we’re not going to.

Dion

Give you any answers to them in a way like that’s what society had become like instead of trying to fix things people left. What happens if you follow the cult of personality all the way through to the end goal, which is colonizing other planets and living in that Colt and starting a new generation? Does that look like you know?

Peta

It was less instead of trying to fix things, people left. It’s it was that. Interests were discouraging the fixing of things and encouraging the leaving. I’m assuming for commercial gain like there was a particular line in the in the beginning that kind of made it clear that there was a particular kind of movement. Of don’t ******* fix it. Pay us to put you on another planet. Yeah. So again, like the power of capitalism, I think. Is a driving force. Then.

Dion

Yeah, and feeding. I mean like the the ego at the top of capitalism was a great thing in the movie. Which was. Yeah, it’s a Trump. It’s like, what would Trump do? Wouldn’t fix. Trump would just decide to get idiots together to pay him to take them to another planet where he ruled like a God.

Quinny

Yeah. Ta. And I do love the the idea that this is, you know, the 3D printing humans is completely illegal except out in space. It’s like everything’s legal in New Jersey.

Dion

Well, I mean, it’s also the fact that he made the exemption for that by. Going it could be used for purposes of research. We should explore that, but just not here. Do it in space where it doesn’t affect anyone here. I mean, that was really interesting.

Quinny

Too, yes, international waters? Precisely.

Dion

Yeah, international interplanetary.

Jill

Intergalactical.

Dion

Yes.

Peta

Did you enjoy the? Trump esque. Suggestive, almost Nazi salute moment that was.

Quinny

Oh, there’s a lot of fun finger and then a couple of other fingers. And then there are other fingers coming in and you’re like, oh.

Peta

Incredibly, Elon Musk.

Dion

How many do we go? I’m. I’m just saying hi. Yeah.

Quinny

And that’s the thing. Like when they made this what I’m assuming?

Peta

They would have shot that year year ago at least. I mean, there’s a lot of effects like.

Speaker

It’s.

Quinny

Actually pushed back quite a long way too. Like it was meant to release a year and a.

Dion

Bit ago it’s 20. It was done in 2022.

Speaker

Oh wow.

Dion

But he’d.

Quinny

Yeah, there you go.

Dion

He’d I think Trump was already announced as running.

Peta

Yeah, but it’s more the echo of the recent Elon Musk moment than it’s.

Dion

There was. There was. Other this was a long time before.

Quinny

Exactly. Yeah, like it’s a pretty impressive swing to to, you know, well, he’s impressive. Maybe not to imagine that people might start ******* again, but. Here we are so. There’s a. Yeah, I. Enjoy the fact that it’s it’s about ideas and I love my sci-fi when it’s about ideas you know and asking really weird questions like. If you if you can’t die, what are the moral implications of you being lied to about your death? You know, or if you if you can die over and over and. Again is. Is it morally wrong to use you to create? A pathogen or.

Dion

Jesus, yeah.

Jill

Well, I mean, it was in the terms and conditions. You gotta read your your new apple.

Peta

Read the fine print.

Jill

IOS, when you sign up.

Speaker

I mean.

Dion

If it was a saving grace that I really enjoyed about the film itch, like for a while there I wasn’t believing Mickey and. And I’m national nasha’s, you know, relationship for a long while there until it got more explained how caring she was about him and how a lot of the things she because she was seeing her partner die over and over and over again.

Speaker

Nasha. Hmm.

Dion

And that was just his job. But the tenderness and the ability to be with that person as they die all the time like that would have been massively traumatic for her. When you think about it.

Quinny

Yeah.

Dion

And that was when you start to get like I thought, ideas were really. Like these were good reasonings and justifications, and I could understand stuff when it wasn’t presented that way. And they held it off a little bit too long. Was like, Oh well, that’s good. Like like.

Peta

Yeah, it came. It came in a little late. Yeah, because it was one of my favourite kind of things about it in the end.

Speaker

Yeah.

Peta

Yeah. And what happened to what? Happened to what’s her name? The other woman, who was at the dinner.

Quinny

Kai.

Peta

Like disappeared.

Quinny

Kai, who was sometimes you know, was obviously intended to be a bisexual lady who was attracted to both Mickey or whatever. I don’t know. She seemed to extricate herself from the plot at one point.

Peta

Why did she entirely disappear from? Plot at one point. Anyway, spoilers, but these aren’t like actual spoilers. That you will ask yourself while watching the film.

Dion

She returned at the end, though, in a in a healthy relationship with someone else.

Peta

Yeah, but, but what was the point of her?

Dion

Even though, yeah. I don’t know what was the point of anyone like, you know, they were punishing this guy with not giving him food for ages when he did something wrong. Which? Which is another kind of thing there about class structure in society. Because everyone got had to eat terrible, ****** meals for the whole time. For the. People in charge who just kept eating. Like regular folk and, you know, denying food to people as a weapon.

Peta

Sauce.

Dion

Yeah.

Peta

It says thanks.

Dion

Yeah, it’s got lots.

Quinny

It does say things I also felt like. There was a point where the end where they like, they’re rolling out on these big tank things and with the intent of having some big stand off with. The the Queen tardigrade, as it were.

Dion

And it’s all just objects.

Speaker

I felt it.

Dion

Sorry, I love that it was all just optics. They didn’t have a. They didn’t know what they were doing, but it would look good. Like all they wanted to do was make something that looked good. Make this guy look good.

Quinny

And yeah, it ended up being oddly anticlimactic. Was like. Yep, you never actually got anywhere near it. You didn’t get your video, and now you’ve been blown up? Cool. I mean felt appropriate for how I want that guy to go. But you know.

Dion

Yeah. And then they fridge the female character, Toni Collette. And then the return of the female character in a flashback. Was it a flashback? I don’t know. Criminally. See, This is why I got down to 65. But I still, like you know, had great, great movement of the the 3D printing of him and the way he fell out of that thing a couple of times. Thought man Robert Pattinson must have had a lot of massage and yoga and been very relaxed. Been a soft floor in the set those days. Yeah. Did anyone else like the scientist characters?

Jill

Yes, I liked Dorothy.

Dion

Yeah, I like. I also like the other scientist characters because they were like they also didn’t have empathy enough, and that was funny too, because they were just about the science. Yeah, you know, they’re just about like, we just need to like, especially when he’s outside. The first time. Then like we just. You to take your helmet off. What?

Quinny

Deep breaths.

Dion

‘S your dead.

Speaker 2

Deep breaths.

Dion

The radiation’s already. You just explain that to us so that we can get as much data as we can before we print you out. God.

Speaker

That’s why.

Dion

But that. What a corporation would do that had no morals.

Quinny

What I do wonder is like the whole concept that he has been. He gets reprinted each time and his memories get re uploaded but. From what point like? Is he being like because he can? I assume can remember his death?

Peta

Can you remind me to please? Yes. So I’m assuming there’s some kind of like instant linkage, instant link back to the yeah.

Dion

No, they. I think they explained it somewhere along that line, which is.

Jill

It was a point where he was explaining how he remembered his death ’cause. I was thinking the same thing.

Dion

Yeah. It gets backed. Yeah, it gets backed up each day. But. Whether or not. It also depends on when he like how long he’s from his death, that he that he gets backed up and stuff.

Jill

Yeah, I think it was when Timo asked him.

Dion

Who knows?

Jill

Then he’s like, do you remember dying every time?

Dion

Yeah.

Jill

Then that was when.

Peta

I mean, I was just assuming some kind of cloud situation.

Dion

They explained all that in altered carbon, which is on Netflix, you can go on, you know, if you want to, if you want to know how that is, that’s another one that talks about very, very rich people who get to live forever.

Speaker

Which?

Dion

That’s.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

Yeah, it’s actually a good series.

Quinny

Well, the first season is second season.

Jill

Yeah, I didn’t get through Anthony Mackey season.

Dion

You’d leave Anthony Mackie alone. A really good dude. Just seems to be in terrible properties.

Jill

This is under utilized. No, you know. He’s great in that metal one.

Quinny

Old twisted metal, which can get twisted metal.

Jill

Twisted metal looks. I love that stupid show.

Quinny

I saw a trailer for season 2 for that the other day and I’m. Oh **** yeah.

Dion

They got a second season, OK.

Peta

And.

Quinny

They got a second season and and and what’s more, they’re going more into the the game stuff that it’s more about. Like a big carnage driving into like, what do you call it a?

Speaker

Nice.

Quinny

Yeah, like a roller Derby, yeah. Gladiatorial Arena accepted cars.

Jill

Monster trucks.

Quinny

Yeah.

Jill

Demolition Derby.

Quinny

Demolition Derby, but like so essentially finally getting to what the game was. Which is, yeah.

Jill

Cool.

Dion

Thank God a video game property has. Accurate. Great stuff. We are looking forward to Witcher season 4. Sorry, it’s got nothing to do with Mickey 17. You’re just saying things about sequels and numbers, and I got distracted by myself.

Quinny

Sorry, I did go off on a tangent because we’re talking about twisted metal, but I do feel like maybe.

Jill

I thought. Had finished talking about.

Quinny

I was gonna say I feel like perhaps you haven’t covered everything there is to cover.

Dion

We’ve covered all that.

Jill

Yeah, go watch it if you haven’t.

Peta

But yeah, it’s fun. Yeah.

Dion

With popcorn like it’s great. Good times. What are we doing next week?

Quinny

Yeah.

Jill

What are we?

Dion

Oh, that’s. Together with the electric state.

Speaker 1

Oh wow.

Speaker

Oh.

Dion

OK guys, good advantage.

Quinny

I just like Jill’s face. Oh, I’m saying, Chris.

Dion

Come on, fill the room.

Jill

Pratt movie.

Dion

No, no, no, no, this is.

Quinny

Yeah.

Peta

I’m still. What am I supposed to watch?

Dion

This is the Millie Bobby Brown movie. It’s Millie, Bobby Brown MBB or the other.

Jill

Oh. So we just ignore the other guy.

Dion

Yeah, don’t worry about CT.

Quinny

So it’s.

Dion

Focused on MPB, wait.

Quinny

Looking like being the most expensive film that Netflix has made.

Jill

Even more than that will.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

One that cost him a billion dollars.

Dion

What was that one?

Jill

The first one that bright, yeah.

Quinny

Right.

Dion

Was it? That wasn’t a billion dollars?

Jill

It was something stupid like that.

Quinny

It was very ******* high. But I think yeah, this is this is one of those ones that everyone’s like Netflix. Are you OK? You appear to be spending a **** ton of money.

Dion

But it’s Anthony Russo and Joe Russo, the Russo brothers.

Jill

Are the Russo brothers?

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Jill

I’ll give it a chance.

Quinny

It’s got Bryant only had a budget of about somewhere between 90 and 100 million hundred and 5 million, so not actually that high for a big budget movie. But at the time for a streamer it was a stupid amount of money.

Dion

Yeah. I also want you to know that this one, the electric state that we’re reviewing next week, had a budget of $320 million and also has Anthony Mackie in it. Yeah, I. I’m just reading through the cards quickly and it’s like, wait, Stanley Tucci, Giancarlo Esposito, Brian Cox, Anthony Mackie, Woody Harrelson. Like what? And then I remember that most of his animated, and they’re probably all robot voices, which is like, right.

Jill

Yeah, that makes more sense.

Quinny

Yeah.

Jill

It’s going to be. An if situation.

Dion

Yes. Yeah. Well, the voice. Yeah. The voices that are in there are Woody Harrelson, Anthony Mackie, Brian Cox, Jenny Slate, Alan Tudyk and Kazaria Coleman Domingo. And then other people. Don’t actually know.

Speaker

Quinny

Hmm.

Peta

This is the first time hearing of this movie and I definitely have been reading our chats properly.

Dion

Well, don’t worry. It’s on Netflix from this Friday.

Peta

Check it out.

Jill

Yeah, they’ve only just really started advertising it on billboards and stuff this last week, so. Yeah, don’t be too worried about not being.

Dion

Yep.

Jill

On it.

Dion

I was like worrying too. We all love Alan Tudyk and I’m hanging out for April because guess who comes back in April. K2. That’s right. Alan Tudyk Droid is in season 2 of Andor.

Quinny

I find your Ellen to strangle.

Dion

I hope. Get like AK-2. So origin story in one of the episodes. Would be great.

Jill

Yeah.

Quinny

I’m hoping to get to full three season 3 Series.

Dion

Arc three series. You know there is no more series.

Jill

Spin off, spin off.

Quinny

Quit 3 episodes is what I meant.

Dion

Been off his own off.

Jill

2SS spin off, spinning everything off.

Quinny

Yeah, I’m there.

Dion

I mean this is this is what I. Like you know, some people are unhappy about the fact that they can’t watch Rogue one because everyone dies. I’m like, that’s the beauty of this thing. Bottled it’s. It’s a start and finish and you have to love it for the moment that it’s there and then let it go. Much like Mickey’s Mickey, 17, you love him for the moment.

Speaker

It’s like a firework.

Dion

There and then, he’s probably gonna die, so you gotta. Him go.

Speaker

It’s.

Quinny

So just a little thing on the electric state, a while ago we did a review of a series called in the loop.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

Which was on Amazon Prime, and it was a weird anthology series.

Jill

Yes, yes.

Quinny

So the the designs that that was based on are all done by a guy called Simon Stalenburg. The electric state is based on his design work.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker

Oh.

Quinny

Like it’s all about these giant robots and. Semi apocalyptic American grassland kind of thing with all these rusting old robot hulks and stuff.

Speaker

Jill

Well, maybe I can be a little bit more on board about this. That’s what.

Quinny

Like the trailers kind of look OK, whatever. But the designs.

Speaker

I thought it was.

Jill

A bit like what was that? That IP catchall Steven Spielberg movie.

Dion

Oh, the Ready Player 1.

Quinny

Ready Player 1.

Jill

Yes, that’s what the vibes I was getting.

Peta

IP catch all Steven Spielberg movie for adaptation of the book.

Speaker

Perfect.

Jill

I think my explanation was accurate.

Dion

No, don’t. Don’t worry.

Quinny

Nailed it on that one.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

100%.

Speaker

It’s like.

Dion

I’m going to. You’re like one of those super fishing tankers that just drag Nets 400 kilometers of open and just pulls it all out and goes. You want this, right? It’s too much. What am I going to do all these? Most of it’s ****. It’s like. Don’t worry. Ready Player 2’s coming. I think. I think it’s still in development, but.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, I know.

Dion

You’re right.

Speaker

The.

Quinny

Book was, by all accounts ******* terrible, like. I mean shoe.

Dion

Book already player 1.

Quinny

Yeah. Ready. Player 2 was like everybody was like, oh, ready Player one has a certain kind of nostalgic thing that that appealed to a certain a particular group of **********, Judds and me.

Jill

Vanessa qua.

Peta

I mean, I didn’t hate it, but yes, continue.

Quinny

I didn’t hate it. I didn’t hate it as I read. I hated it when I listened to Will, Wheaton narrated. And then when you listen to somebody say it out loud, you’re. This guy is an insufferable **** ***. Who just spends the entire book telling you how good he is at everything.

Dion

Spielberg will not direct the sequel, but he will produce.

Speaker

Dion

So obviously it’s sitting in the development hell of like I have. Have the rights to this. Who wants to come along and make this thing before the rats run out? Right. But Steven Spielberg’s like? Nah, I want to direct that.

Jill

Yeah.

Quinny

I mean, yeah, but yeah, the sequel book, everybody, even, even the the Unbuckles, have said not fun. A good follow up. Not enjoyable.

Dion

Speaking of book sequels to films like, You Know, Sorry, like Willow, what’s the second one? Laura Dernen book.

Quinny

Oh, it was a sequel to the what?

Dion

Yes, yes, the goes.

Quinny

They didn’t adapt into the hugely successful TV series.

Dion

No. And then there was one about The Princess Bride. Oh where Buttercup grows up, yeah.

Quinny

Yes.

Jill

Oh no, that sounds terrible.

Dion

Although the funny one, did anyone like see Star Wars? And then, you know, go out and read Splinter of the Minds Eye, which was the the book that was the sequel written at the time before he’d even written Empire Strikes Back and was turning into a trilogy. So.

Speaker

Oh.

Jill

Oh wow.

Dion

There’s some weird **** that goes on. Luke and Leia do hook up.

Speaker

Dion

Yeah. Anyway, it’s Canon. It really. It’s called Splinter of the Mind’s eye. Can read it if you like. Masochism.

Speaker

Is.

Quinny

Equal to The Princess Bride. Called butter cups, baby.

Dion

That’s it, buttercup’s baby.

Quinny

EW, yeah.

Dion

And then there is another book. There’s a sequel to Willow in book form, I believe. Written by Chris Claremont.

Speaker

Really.

Dion

I think so. Correct me if I’m. I mean, I’m doing this off memory. And I never said that to Chris Claremont’s face because I wasn’t going to challenge it when I met him once.

Peta

Right.

Dion

Am I right? Have you looked it up?

Quinny

Is that truly due of sequel fantasy novel was published for Willow The Chronicles of the Shadow War by Chris.

Dion

Safety. Exactly. Was it by Krylis Clermont? You very much.

Speaker 2

Brown.

Quinny

I mean, I hope they were better. That TV series.

Dion

I don’t think so. Because if. Because if they were any good, I think that they would have been mined for content for that TV show, which.

Quinny

Pete, you’ll be. Are we getting more wheel of time sometime soon? You’ve gone club.

Peta

What a great, good job on this second season, although like it’s Amazon and.

Speaker

I’m.

Peta

Having some issues. With support there.

Dion

Everyone getting around Reacher season 2.

Jill

Oh, I’m giving it a good old recharge.

Dion

Is it season 2 or season 3? Remember 3 I think. It 3.

Jill

Yeah.

Dion

Sorry, apologies for that.

Jill

Three. Yeah, I’ve got 5 episodes out. Dropping on Thursdays now. Yeah, I I really enjoyed the book that it’s based on. So I’m enjoying seeing it in TV form.

Dion

When I watched it. Yeah, I’m. Enjoying the ads that are coming up now. I’m like, oh, that’s.

Jill

At least they’re kind of placing them in like.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but then.

Jill

Looks.

Dion

Like one of The thing is, there’s absolutely 0 tonal reckon like recommendation for. It is just out of left. It’s just kind of like, hey, toilet duck. Let’s talk about that for 43 seconds and.

Jill

You’re like, oh, when I was watching the Batman episodes, an ad would pop up in the middle of somebody talking.

Speaker

What?

Quinny

Oh yeah, that was that was ******. That was really, really badly.

Jill

At least the ads now are kind of being placed after somebody says something.

Quinny

Well, the thing that ****** me off about it is that most TV is still being made with the intent of maybe one day airing on AD, you know, on ATV channel where they leave the ******* ad breaks in there.

Jill

Quinny

Actually put like beats in the episodes to leave space for ads. If you’ve got them. Why would you not ******* use them?

Dion

Also, I wonder can. Just like be part of that crowd that wants to call ******** on Reacher, having like a 10 episode season. *******. Come on. You know where’s the Golden Age of television, where they’re cranking at 26 episodes of these every September? Would start and you would just get 26. It would fall for and then people like Oh well. Anyway, I did read just like. ******* 9. I did 473 episodes.

Jill

I wouldn’t complain about having to stare at all.

Speaker

In.

Jill

For 26 episodes.

Dion

Sure.

Quinny

I agree with you, Dion, I think.

Jill

As long as he takes his shirt off for about 13 of them.

Dion

You know what? That’s.

Speaker

Dion

Think the ratios are on your side there.

Speaker

I think.

Dion

Like Richard just seems to turn up and it’s like, hey, this is guys physically impressive. Let’s get him naked as possible all the time.

Jill

Yeah, well, there was. I think it was episode. He’s walking down the street in his underwear.

Dion

Yeah, and I love.

Jill

Yeah, no complaints.

Dion

Every single, every single female character in Reacher that sees him like is could be in mid sentence, just sees, sees him and then just goes the brain guy.

Jill

It’s not a great reel the other day that it was like, here’s the story about Reacher. Reacher can solve everything by how large he is. No. It’s too small for Reacher because he can solve it. His largeness.

Dion

I agree.

Jill

Except in this. In this book, there’s a guy that’s bigger than him.

Quinny

What?

Jill

Yeah, no.

Dion

But also way ******* Dumber.

Jill

So I think Alan Richen is like 6-6 or something and this guy that is in the this series is like 7, four or something ridiculous like that.

Quinny

Jesus Christ, but.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Quinny

Gonna say I’m like a mountain.

Jill

So it’s like. Does a large man defeat a larger man?

Dion

I mean it’s I feel like these these things can get a little bit lost until you start putting them back into. Like, I mean, come on. Just put them next to the female lead who’s like, 5-4 and then you’ll get the idea of just how massive that is.

Quinny

Or put them next to. Who everybody else thinks is a big, tall dude. Like I always remember seeing a picture of like I think it was Pedro Pascal or somebody like that standing next to the mountain and the hound. And it was like, oh, **** me, those things are actually giants.

Dion

Those things.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

Before we wrap it up, what do we think of the 1st 2 episodes of Daredevil?

Speaker

Oh yes.

Speaker 2

I’m watching it. Oh no.

Jill

There’s like about 5 different TV series that are out right now that are dropping weekly and I am like trying to divert my time to a couple of them and maybe I’ll just binge dead at a later date.

Dion

Maybe. Maybe Nick’s like if electric state. We might do electric state. A bit of daredevil give you a shoot.

Jill

Ohh ****. I’m gonna have to watch.

Dion

A little.

Quinny

Did you not just hear Jule say she wants to put it off?

Speaker 1

No.

Quinny

We can wait. We can. We can wait till April to talk about the devil.

Dion

Sure, sure. My quick one on the two, the two episodes though, is on my daredevil.

Speaker

Oh.

Quinny

Really.

Jill

But it’s still the same girl.

Dion

You know, I I get that. But still.

Speaker 2

Oh.

Dion

Although to be fair, I still only believe in Colin Farrell’s bullseye, so.

Speaker

It’s like.

Dion

That’s. He’s the only bullseye for me.

Quinny

Well, I’m in the opposite. I’m thoroughly on board with it and honestly, after about an episode and a half, I’m like Oh yeah, I’m just watching. Netflix show again.

Jill

Nice.

Quinny

Yeah, without all the **** stuff with the hand and the defenders.

Speaker

Oh yeah.

Quinny

Stuff like that.

Dion

Oh. Please bring back ******* Iron fist.

Jill

No two seasons too many of him.

Speaker

Hmm.

Dion

I mean that would that would be pretty great though, just at one point, all the defenders turn up in one of these episodes and I would just be like just having dinner or something having a.

Speaker

No.

Dion

They wouldn’t have. But they have to be separate from The Avengers. What would they? What fast food would they have?

Quinny

I don’t. I’m Philly cheese. I I would actually love for them to bring back Iron Fist. Just don’t want it to be Finn. I’d like it to have been Colleen Wing who took it.

Jill

Yeah.

Quinny

At the end of season 2. Was the iron fist.

Speaker

Yeah. Well. All right.

Quinny

Well, she did.

Dion

Sorry we have. We have to wrap it up there. ‘S Lost lost his ****.

Peta

And yeah, I’m gonna. Gonna. I’m technically, I’m still at work, so I’m just doing that.

Speaker 4

Now.

Quinny

This this is the face of somebody who is working on an Emmy production. We speak.

Dion

She’s like, well, hopefully like hopefully.

Peta

I think so.

Quinny

I say not putting any pressure on Peter at.

Dion

All. If there’s anyone who needs a 3D printer of themselves, it would be Peter. If you do have that technology, just give it to Peter.

Speaker

Yes, we need that.

Peta

Technology, I promise I won’t use it for evil.

Dion

You. I just now I’m imagining Peter going.

Quinny

What happens if the printer gets stuck?

Peta

You run out of ink halfway. Starts just like printing one colour. You end up with like just veins for the rest of. Body anyway.

Dion

What the rolling mechanism gets stuck and it just keeps printing you, but you just get. This is war. Then you end up like it’s, so you get the substance.

Jill

Little ****** legs. When you come out.

Dion

Damn, the feeder didn’t work.

Jill

We were talking about that so much last week. Watched that on the weekend too.

Dion

Nice, nice.

Jill

******* slaps that.

Dion

Movie it does. Slap.

Quinny

I’m off to go watch some more yellow jackets because that’s my thing at the moment.

Jill

It’s another one I haven’t started.

Speaker 1

****.

Jill

******* White Lotus, though, the old seasons.

Quinny

Done Netflix now. Well.

Dion

Yeah, yeah, the old seasons.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah.

Dion

I’m going to go and watch some last week tonight to make myself cry about the future of the world.

Jill

Yep.

Quinny

Look with that. Thanks everybody.

Dion

Thanks everyone.

Speaker 2

See you next week.

Dion

We’ll see you next week, OK?

Speaker

Alright.

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