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Andrew Heard responds: The Case for Goal-Driven Churches
Manage episode 489188857 series 1088224
Andrew Heard says ministries cannot be other than outcome-focused in their work - the question is will those outcomes be good or bad? Conscious or unconscious? Specific or vague?
He addresses critics who confuse having Biblical goals with adopting secular business practices.
Andrew Heard leads the Reach Australia movement, and pastors the influential EV Church on the Central Coast.
• All Christians are goal-driven whether consciously or unconsciously
• Critique often conflate goals with the methods used to pursue them (which is a separate question).
• Paul in 1 Corinthians demonstrates strategic thinking while maintaining gospel integrity
• "Wise master builder" suggests skill and thoughtfulness in ministry, not just faithfulness
• Personal, transformational ministry requires organisation.
• Opposition to large churches and attempting to grow churches creates an impossible task for reaching the world. We need to own the fact that we either need much bigger churches or many more churches, or both.
ChurchSuite Taster Days in Australia
Churchsuite is a Church Management Platform. Check us out at a Taster Day - Sydney October 21,22; Brisbane October 24; Canberra October 27; Melbourne October 28; Perth October 30.
The Church Co
http://www.thechurchco.com is a website and app platform built specifically for churches.
Anglican Aid
Anglican Aid - To find out more about how to support Anglican Aid.
Advertise on The Pastor's Heart
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Chapters
1. Introduction to Goal-Driven Ministry (00:00:00)
2. Defining Outcome Leadership (00:07:04)
3. Paul's Approach in 1 Corinthians (00:12:06)
4. Strategy in Ministry (00:18:48)
5. Organization vs. Businessification (00:23:21)
6. Scaling Churches for National Impact (00:28:36)
7. Learning from Wesley and Whitfield (00:31:38)
431 episodes
Manage episode 489188857 series 1088224
Andrew Heard says ministries cannot be other than outcome-focused in their work - the question is will those outcomes be good or bad? Conscious or unconscious? Specific or vague?
He addresses critics who confuse having Biblical goals with adopting secular business practices.
Andrew Heard leads the Reach Australia movement, and pastors the influential EV Church on the Central Coast.
• All Christians are goal-driven whether consciously or unconsciously
• Critique often conflate goals with the methods used to pursue them (which is a separate question).
• Paul in 1 Corinthians demonstrates strategic thinking while maintaining gospel integrity
• "Wise master builder" suggests skill and thoughtfulness in ministry, not just faithfulness
• Personal, transformational ministry requires organisation.
• Opposition to large churches and attempting to grow churches creates an impossible task for reaching the world. We need to own the fact that we either need much bigger churches or many more churches, or both.
ChurchSuite Taster Days in Australia
Churchsuite is a Church Management Platform. Check us out at a Taster Day - Sydney October 21,22; Brisbane October 24; Canberra October 27; Melbourne October 28; Perth October 30.
The Church Co
http://www.thechurchco.com is a website and app platform built specifically for churches.
Anglican Aid
Anglican Aid - To find out more about how to support Anglican Aid.
Advertise on The Pastor's Heart
To advertise on The Pastor's Heart go to thepastorsheart.net/sponsor
Chapters
1. Introduction to Goal-Driven Ministry (00:00:00)
2. Defining Outcome Leadership (00:07:04)
3. Paul's Approach in 1 Corinthians (00:12:06)
4. Strategy in Ministry (00:18:48)
5. Organization vs. Businessification (00:23:21)
6. Scaling Churches for National Impact (00:28:36)
7. Learning from Wesley and Whitfield (00:31:38)
431 episodes
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