There are people who do not simply work in the world… they bend it, ever so gently, toward growth.
They design experiences that don’t just inform but awaken. They educate, they mold, they transform whatever they hold.
They leave behind no statue, no symphony, no temple of stone—
and yet they build invisible cathedrals in the lives of those they touch.

My guest today is one of those people.

For nearly two decades, Margie Dillenburg has walked alongside leaders who imagine new futures,
from the heart of social impact to the restless edge of for-profit innovation.
She knows what it means to help something small become something world-changing—
and to carry a full heart into spaces that can sometimes forget they have one.

Today, we look past the résumé and into the mystery.
Who is the designer behind the experience?
What moments of doubt, wonder, heartbreak, and transformation made her the guide she is today?
And what is the hidden current—her own private dialogue—that flows beneath all she does?