Katie Stallard is a senior editor at the New Statesman magazine where she writes about China and global affairs. She’s also a non-resident global fellow at the Wilson Center in Washington, D.C., and she has written for various publications including The Atlantic, Foreign Policy, The Wall Street Journal, and The Diplomat, and has appeared as an analyst for multiple media outlets. Previously based in Russia and China as a foreign correspondent for Sky News, she has reported from more than twenty countries to date, covering conflicts, natural disasters, and some of the world’s most repressive regimes. Katie is also the author of Dancing on Bones: History and Power in China, Russia, and North Korea, published by Oxford University Press in May 2022, and this book is the subject of our conversation today.