From two rejection letters to the pulpit of Abyssinian.

In this episode of The Ministry Exchange, Rev. Dr. Kevin R. Johnson unpacks a journey marked by resilience, prophetic courage, and legacy leadership. Now the 21st Senior Pastor of the historic Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem, Dr. Johnson reflects on what it means to lead with conviction—even when it costs you.

We talk about:

• Getting into Morehouse after being denied—twice
• Founding Dare to Imagine Church from his living room
• Speaking out against President Obama—and the fallout that followed
• Balancing ministry and family before it was too late
• Succeeding Dr. Calvin O. Butts III and stewarding one of the Black Church’s most iconic pulpits

This episode is for every pastor, preacher, and leader ready to reimagine what calling, courage, and church leadership can look like today.

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