The CPTO model is on the rise — but what does it really take to succeed when you're leading both product and engineering?

In this episode, Shobhit Chugh chats with Shobhit Jain, a seasoned Chief Product & Technology Officer, about how unifying these two functions unlocks innovation, accelerates delivery, and drives smarter AI-native strategy.

From shaping strategic roadmaps to scaling cross-functional teams, this conversation is packed with insights for PMs and tech leaders ready to grow into more strategic, high-impact roles.

You’ll learn:

• Why the CPTO model is gaining momentum — and what makes it work
• How to go from tactical PM to strategic, executive-minded leader
• How to align product and tech teams around systems, not silos
• What visionary leadership actually looks like in a fast-moving tech org
• The most common leadership traps — and how to avoid them
• How to level up your storytelling, stakeholder management, and influence
• What PMs need to understand about AI (and where most get it wrong)
  
  

Episode Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro
00:27 – Why the CPTO model matters
00:51 – Meet Shobhit Jain
02:13 – AI’s impact on product and tech
04:03 – System-thinking in team building
08:15 – Driving vision and shared goals
11:24 – Scaling strategy beyond the roadmap
13:24 – Short-term vs long-term tradeoffs
16:06 – Earning stakeholder trust
19:36 – Building your leadership narrative
22:51 – Lightning round: fun & reflective questions
29:26 – Wrap-up and takeaways

Listen if you want to:
✅ Step into more senior product or tech roles
✅ Become a more strategic cross-functional leader
✅ Learn how to drive outcomes—not just output

Connect with Shobhit Chugh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shobhitchugh/

Connect with Shobhit Jain: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jshobhit/

www.intentionalproductmanager.com